Trumps attack on Iran - 2026 edition

How will the upcoming attack on Iran go.

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If you want to maintain peace then you have to prepare for war. Military cut backs do not help with keeping peace.
 
Highway Man said:
If you want to maintain peace then you have to prepare for war. Military cut backs do not help with keeping peace.
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Trumpf is preparing for peace, he said Irann’s nuclear program can be monitored by satellite. A little detour indeed
 
Our armed forces were once the most feared and formidable forces in the world, We were respected by everyone and this wasn't that long ago. Once the redunancies and spending was cut it reduced our capacity drastically each year. This has gone on for more years than should have. When Starmer took over he was warned about the state of our forces and our ability to protect the UK, he knew during the Ukraine invasion and still didnt act on it. Now he is desperate to reverse this but it will take a good 5 years to get us back to where we were in the 80s. If he had acted on this 3 years ago we would only be a couple of years away from being fully armed again,. We now rely on buying in our military equipment from South Korea, the USA and other countries because it is the fastest route.
 
Highway Man said:
Our armed forces were once the most feared and formidable forces in the world, We were respected by everyone and this wasn't that long ago. Once the redunancies and spending was cut it reduced our capacity drastically each year. This has gone on for more years than should have. When Starmer took over he was warned about the state of our forces and our ability to protect the UK, he knew during the Ukraine invasion and still didnt act on it. Now he is desperate to reverse this but it will take a good 5 years to get us back to where we were in the 80s. If he had acted on this 3 years ago we would only be a couple of years away from being fully armed again,. We now rely on buying in our military equipment from South Korea, the USA and other countries because it is the fastest route.
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So do tell us, what should Starmer have done since he's come to power?

Bearing in mind the 14 years the tories took to get us in the state we are now...

Because all the RW nutjobs ignored the tory cuts and then have a hissy fit when tax rises are mentioned :rolleyes:

Starmer has done a good job keeping us out of the orange rapist/israeli war criminal's war...

And he's doing the only real thing available to regain the £90bn+ lost per year since brexit...

Get better ties with the EU!

Ironic that the orange rapist worshippers/brexiteers/garbage disciples are pushing the UK back to the EU ;)
 
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ellal said:
So do tell us, what should Starmer have done since he's come to power?
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Heed the warnings the military commanders were giving him. Spend on the military, increase the budget that he has only just done. He is not a leader that can take us into a war.
You say that "Starmer has done a good job keeping us out of the orange rapist/israeli war criminal's war.". He did not ensure the safety of our service personel already out there, he failed to adequetly secure Cyprus and expected everyone else to do it for us, embarrasing to say the least. Keeping out of offensive missions against Iran is one thing but to fail to respond in a defensive role is ridiculous. The Us asked to use our bases and he refused, then 36 hrs later did a U turn and allowed them. He is indecisive and has made the UK look like an absolute laughing stock over the Cypriot and Chagos issues. Makes all the tough guy talk, with nothing to back it up. He is an embarrassment to the UK.
 
Highway Man said:
Heed the warnings the military commanders were giving him. Spend on the military, increase the budget that he has only just done. He is not a leader that can take us into a war.
You say that "Starmer has done a good job keeping us out of the orange rapist/israeli war criminal's war.". He did not ensure the safety of our service personel already out there, he failed to adequetly secure Cyprus and expected everyone else to do it for us, embarrasing to say the least. Keeping out of offensive missions against Iran is one thing but to fail to respond in a defensive role is ridiculous. The Us asked to use our bases and he refused, then 36 hrs later did a U turn and allowed them. He is indecisive and has made the UK look like an absolute laughing stock over the Cypriot and Chagos issues. Makes all the tough guy talk, with nothing to back it up. He is an embarrassment to the UK.
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Starmer talks as if we only need to increase defence spending because of pressure from the likes of Trump, and he's showing principled resistance by dragging his heels, saying 3% by 2035 or something.
 
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fixitflav said:
Starmer talks as if we only need to increase defence spending because of pressure from the likes of Trump, and he's showing principled resistance by dragging hois heels, saying 3% by 2035 or something.
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and yet it is well predicted that we will highly likely be fighting with Russia within the next decade, probably sooner now because of the weaknesses Putin has seen within NATO. Trump cannot now be relied upon as a credible ally.
 
Saudi and UAE are still vocal about joining in, I hope they do. Netanyahu has suggested to the Crown Prince of Saudi that the only long term solution would be to construct a pipeline away from Hormuz, across Saudi direct to the Med, seems like a good solution.
 
fillyboy said:
Saudi and UAE are still vocal about joining in, I hope they do. Netanyahu has suggested to the Crown Prince of Saudi that the only long term solution would be to construct a pipeline away from Hormuz, across Saudi direct to the Med, seems like a good solution.
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The UAE have an amazing airforce, I don't think they will have much option other than to get involved. I hope they do.
 
Highway Man said:
They have all been aware of the cuts and none has done anything regardless who started the cuts.
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This is the side of politics that I get more jaded with the older I get i.e. the 'we could do better than you' and 'here are the mistakes you're making' rhetoric from opposition parties when, 9/10, whoever is saying it didn't do better when they were in power or may even have instigated the issue. Or indeed we hear the same sort of rhetoric from parties that have never held power or last did decades upon decades ago.

Yes it's part of day to day politics, doesn't mean it can't become tiresome.

I do not doubt for one sec that if Reform or the Greens were to gain power, they would not be one iota better. Actually, part of me would like to see Farage or Polanski gain power to see what sort of bullsh1t excuses they'd start coming up with at PMQs etc.

Round and round it goes.
 
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