Who’s going to tell them that the answer is immigration?

[King Billy]

Not for the bloke who was sitting on a wall next to a protest the other day, who was battered and beaten to the ground by the police.

Link to a source of news?

 

[King Billy]

How come you're allowed to say that?

For now, for me.

So this was utter nonsense then?

Silence all debate. The standard communist playbook.
Do as you're told, don't question authority.

Your comment proved the opposite.
A self-refuting claim, known as a backfire effect.

 

[SPLINE]

I gave you the answer, that's not how UK government pensions have ever worked. It may be insulting but it is also accurate.

Yes, you gave me the answer, and it was a perfectly logical and correct answer within the Starmer/Blair enforced way of thinking - but that way of thinking has very narrow horizons. As if there is no other way.

Remember, British government law made it that Lucy Connolly was jailed for typing words that had no consequence, while at the same time admonishing two thugs who battered police men and women clearly on camera.

Money put by in a pension fund should be invested for the benefit of that person, not put in general taxation to be blown on other things, Maxwell style. The current British government pension model requires a constant churn of people from other countries, each batch replacing the last.

You make a big deal of your superior knowledge, asking 'How do people not know this? Well we do know - your 'superior knowledge' is repeated government propaganda, and every man and his dog is familiar with it.

 

[King Billy]

Money put by in a pension fund should be invested for the benefit of that person, not put in general taxation to be blown on other things,

Hard luck, you didn't design the National Insurance scheme.
You should have discussed it with Lloyd George.

 

[IT Minion]

Yes, you gave me the answer, and it was a perfectly logical and correct answer

Glad you're up to speed now.

Do you understand why a falling population, or an aging population, is a problem now?

 

[SPLINE]

Glad you're up to speed now.

Do you understand why a falling population, or an aging population, is a problem now?

As I've said, I understand why you are saying these things. You have said nothing I hadn't previously heard.

Aging and a falling population are problems, but only in the Blair/Starmer system. Previous governments made much of care and respect for old people

Therefore this remains a question that lefties cannot answer.

 

[IT Minion]

As I've said, I understand why you are saying these things. You have said nothing I hadn't previously heard.

Aging and a falling population are problems, but only in the Blair/Starmer system. Previous governments made much of care and respect for old people

Therefore this remains a question that lefties cannot answer.

So you want to wave a magic wand and somehow magic up a huge pile of money to pay for the current pensioners and then all currently under pension age get a contribution based pension? How are you going to manage the increased tax to pay for that?

And it's not a 'Blair/starmer' system, it's the same system we've had since there was a state pension.

 

[Odds]

Rubbish. The right is all about debate and free speech. The left is all about shouting insults at anyone who doesn't toe the line.

Demonstrably untrue with a cursory glance through forum history.

 

[Brigadier]

The right is all about debate and free speech.

The RW on here are the ones who:

- encourage each other to put other posters on ignore
- when making their usual dog-whistle posts, often passive-agressively post something along the lines of "let's see whether the usual suspects come running"

RW are the bed wetters

 

[warey4life]

Rubbish. The right is all about debate and free speech. The left is all about shouting insults at anyone who doesn't toe the line.

You are living in an alternative reality.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

So you want to wave a magic wand and somehow magic up a huge pile of money to pay for the current pensioners and then all currently under pension age get a contribution based pension? How are you going to manage the increased tax to pay for that?

And it's not a 'Blair/starmer' system, it's the same system we've had since there was a state pension.

I remember the good old days when Maggie told the oldies to put another jumper on.

I'm serious. The country was solvent back then, not bankrupt as it's now become by pretending that people who don't work, and haven't saved any money, can live in luxury.

 

[King Billy]

I remember the good old days when Maggie told the oldies to put another jumper on.

During the miner's strike?
That was the only way to keep warm for some.

 

[IT Minion]

I remember the good old days when Maggie told the oldies to put another jumper on.

I'm serious. The country was solvent back then, not bankrupt as it's now become by pretending that people who don't work, and haven't saved any money, can live in luxury.

So you think we should cut pensions?