Nigel Farage and Makerfield

[blup]

Which part of what I said was utter crap?

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[King Billy]

Strange that these "world events" always cause economic catastrophe under Labour governments.

I discussed the world events under the Tories also. I specifically referred to three such events.
It was one of those world events that lead to Joris Bohnson's spectacular downfall.

I didn't crop anything, it was a 5-year chart, as stated.

That'll be why you included a reference to your source. Oh, sorry you didn't.

Oh, I see, you think that a graph of a "10 year bond yield" should always be over a 10-year period. Oh dear, you really don't understand what a bond yield is.

So you copied Mottie's tactic of careful selection of the data to support your narrative.
If you're going to discuss the return on 10 Year Bonds you would normally show the return over the 10 years.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

If you're going to discuss the return on 10 Year Bonds you would normally show the return over the 10 years.

Utter rubbish. You don't understand the basic concept.

A 1 year trend of a 5 year bond is valid, as is a 10 year trend of a 2 year bond. Or any other random combination.

I picked the trend of the 10-year bond over the last 5 years as it includes the Truss spike plus gives good detail for what's happened since Labour started destroying the economy and our international reputation.

Try google to find out what they are, to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

 

[James Carmichael]

Utter rubbish. You don't understand the basic concept.

A 1 year trend of a 5 year bond is valid, as is a 10 year trend of a 2 year bond. Or any other random combination.

I picked the trend of the 10-year bond over the last 5 years as it includes the Truss spike plus gives good detail for what's happened since Labour started destroying the economy and our international reputation.

Try google to find out what they are, to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

Once again, an example of king_billy twisting words - I wouldn't worry about them obviously conflating:
(1) Displaying the offered yields for 10 years bonds over any preceding period of time in which they've been offered you see fit; and
(2) The fact that a 10 year bond is, well 10 years, long.
Given their ability to create salad out of simple concepts in often puerile attempts to 'expose' those who do not agree with them, it could well be the case that they are conflating those entirely separate concepts deliberately and hoping no-one will notice. However, I also know that it is often unwise to propose a conspiracy where the evidence equally supports plain, old fashioned, lack of understanding.

So, take your pick. Either way, I wouldn't waste your time on them.

 

[fillyboy]

I discussed the world events under the Tories also. I specifically referred to three such events.
It was one of those world events that lead to Joris Bohnson's spectacular downfall.

Indeed, the glass of wine and a slice of birthday cake.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Indeed, the glass of wine and a slice of birthday cake.

Wasn't that while Sir Kier was having his curry and beer party that we've all had deleted from our minds?

 

[aveatry]

Wasn't that while Sir Kier was having his curry and beer party that we've all had deleted from our minds?

You mean the same one where Angela rayner and starmer could not remember if rayner was there or not. Untill someone produced a photo of a long haired red headed person sitting in the window, then they remembered.
I also remember the police investigation or it's findings were delayed until after the elections that they were out on the streets campaigning for. I also remember the chief constable of the investigating force being a good friend of starmers.
Standby for the standard deflection replies of something about 14 years and moans millions.oh and a man who likes fake tan.

 

[King Billy]

I picked the trend of the 10-year bond over the last 5 years as it

supports your narrative and ignores the previous rises due to other events.

You carefully selected the data that you thought would support your narrative and ignored previous data due to other event.
You also completely ignored other world events.

It's not a case of understanding a financial indicator, it's about understanding the relevance of that indicator to all external influences.

 

[King Billy]

Indeed, the glass of wine and a slice of birthday cake.

Wasn't that while Sir Kier was having his curry and beer party that we've all had deleted from our minds?

You mean the same one where Angela rayner and starmer could not remember if rayner was there or not. Untill someone produced a photo of a long haired red headed person sitting in the window, then they remembered.
I also remember the police investigation or it's findings were delayed until after the elections that they were out on the streets campaigning for. I also remember the chief constable of the investigating force being a good friend of starmers.
Standby for the standard deflection replies of something about 14 years and moans millions.oh and a man who likes fake tan.

Selective memory syndrome.

 

[King Billy]

(1) Displaying the offered yields for 10 years bonds over any preceding period of time in which they've been offered you see fit; and
(2) The fact that a 10 year bond is, well 10 years, long.

To carefully select a portion of a 10 year financial indicator and reduce it to a specific 5 year spread is to omit the previous (or subsequent 5 years).
An obvious attempt to display the data to support the theory.

There's statistics and there's damn lies.
Sometimes presentation of carefully crafted statistics become damn lies..

 

[noseall]

Add them all together, and they still lose.

 

[noseall]

I have to factor in that Labour won more votes than all the others put together.

I have to factor in that Deform lost by a large margin.

I have to factor in that Farridge's company shrivelled away.

 

[warey4life]

Thanks for your detailed in-depth analysis. Which part of what I said was utter crap?

Do you believe that the bond yield has improved since Labour took power? If so then I have news for you. It's worse, lots worse, and sustained, not just a freak spike.

Moody's was the first major agency to strip the UK of its triple A rating in 2013,
Following the Brexit referendum Standards & Poors and Fitch both issued downgrades, fully stripping Britain of its last remaining triple A ratings. Amazingly even after the last chaotic excuse for a Tory party changing chancellors 5 times in 4 years and Prime ministers 4 times, the UK is no less credit worthy today.