'It's gone too far'

[blup]

Seems that any government who wants to change such things should hold a referendum first.

And then pass primary legislation

 

[morqthana]

It was put to the public to vote on leave or stay, the vote was made and the result wasn't what you wanted. Tough but that's life.

I said it was a democratic vote put to the people who all had a chance to say yes or no. We all voted and one side won with one side losing. Only the losing side cannot accept the result and have never got over it.

They're only doing what Farage said would be the thing to do if Remain won by a narrow margin.

Do you know what a hypocrite is?

 

[SPLINE]

Re store and whoever funds them are his biggest threats in practice. Additionally the right wing media is realising the uncertainty and damage Nige will cause the British economy if he wins power. So they are quietly going after him. Difficult to resist when the mouse thinks he’s smarter than the cat. Nobody wants a British Trumpf

On GD it all comes back to.....

VOTE LABOUR FOREVER!

 

[noseall]

VOTE LABOUR FOREVER!

Hear, hear!

 

[Highway Man]

They're only doing what Farage said would be the thing to do if Remain won by a narrow margin.

Do you know what a hypocrite is?

Brexit has made no difference to your average persons life. I doubt it has impacted on anyones day to day on this forum, A few discrumpled holiday makers is the only complaint and apart from that it is mainly about just not getting their own way and accepting that their vote to stay lost the referendum. Move on and get over it.

 

[noseall]

Brexit has made no difference to your average persons life.

What was the point? It's made every single UK citizen a wee bit poorer. And now we have the small boats to thank brexit for. Remember, the thing you lot complain about the most?

Brexit - total pile of useless dog turd.

 

[motorbiking]

The small boats were not caused by Brexit. Just as Labour's inability to run the country was not caused by Brexit.

 

[noseall]

The small boats were not caused by Brexit.

Interesting theory, although misguided.
1. The primary factor behind small boat crossings is the UK’s lacking a returnsagreement with the EU.The Report’s main finding is that the lack of a returns agreement with the EU is theprimary factor behind the current problem. The Government never assessed theimpact of the consequences for leaving the EU without a returns agreement toreplace the Dublin III Regulation and was caught by surprise. The UK did not need toleave this agreement in leaving the EU. Non-EU members have returns agreementswith the EU.

 

[fillyboy]

Interesting theory, although misguided.
1. The primary factor behind small boat crossings is the UK’s lacking a returnsagreement with the EU.The Report’s main finding is that the lack of a returns agreement with the EU is theprimary factor behind the current problem. The Government never assessed theimpact of the consequences for leaving the EU without a returns agreement toreplace the Dublin III Regulation and was caught by surprise. The UK did not need toleave this agreement in leaving the EU. Non-EU members have returns agreementswith the EU.

In the latter years the Dublin agreement saw more refugees coming to the UK than leaving, mainly due to ECHR rules on family re-unification.

Didn't the increase in boats follow the massive security increase for lorries coming from the EU?

 

[blup]

On GD it all comes back to.....

VOTE LABOUR FOREVER!

It’s the opposite, re form and re store rose to power precisely because forever Labor voting ended.

 

[motorbiking]

Interesting theory, although misguided.
1. The primary factor behind small boat crossings is the UK’s lacking a returnsagreement with the EU.The Report’s main finding is that the lack of a returns agreement with the EU is theprimary factor behind the current problem. The Government never assessed theimpact of the consequences for leaving the EU without a returns agreement toreplace the Dublin III Regulation and was caught by surprise. The UK did not need toleave this agreement in leaving the EU. Non-EU members have returns agreementswith the EU.

You'll have to provide your sources, just to make sure AI hasn't confused you again.

We've already discussed the Dublin agreement and its failure. 2015 to 2018 we took more than we sent.

and it got worse 2019

In 2019, there were 2,236 requests from other member states to transfer individuals into the UK under the Dublin Regulation. There were 714 transfers into the UK under the Dublin Regulation. The majority (496) of these transfers came from Greece. Over the same period, there were 3,258 requests from the UK to transfer individuals out of the UK to other member states. There were 263 transfers out of the UK under the Dublin Regulation. Of these transfers, 104 (40%) were transfers to Germany and 53 (20%) were transfers to France.

Facts :

How many people do we grant asylum or protection to?

www.gov.uk

 

[noseall]

You'll have to provide your sources

I will in good time. It was a report compiled by a learned academic.
I shall give you another snippet later when I’m back at my desk.

The rest of your post is pointless waffle. It’s no accident small boats arrivals ballooned the instant our EU protections ended, and the report corroborates this.
Brexit - utter pile of useless dog turd.

Fromage would have been hung for treason, not so long ago.

 

[motorbiking]

I will in good time. It was a report compiled by a learned academic.
I shall give you another snippet later when I’m back at my desk.

The rest of your post is pointless waffle. It’s no accident small boats arrivals ballooned the instant our EU protections ended, and the report corroborates this.
Brexit - utter pile of useless dog turd.

Fromage would have been hung for treason, not so long ago.

AI

 

[securespark]

I've been saying this for years and people refuse to acknowledge it.

It’s no accident small boats arrivals ballooned the instant our EU protections ended, and the report corroborates this.

 

[motorbiking]

Hopefully Nosey has found something more credible than the article written by Professor Thom Brooks , Durham University 9rd February 2023.

Available here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4351994

It acknowledges Dublin was at best a deterrent, but provides nothing much to support the claim. Thom Brooks did quite a lot of publishing in the run up to the leave vote, to discourage leave voting.

This isn't a peer-reviewed journal article — it's a self-published "working paper"/policy report. It has no journal, no editorial board, and no external peer review. it was explicitly written as a policy intervention aimed at MPs, timed to the UK's "Stop the Boats" debate, accompanied by press outreach and a widely-shared video, and was subsequently cited in a House of Commons debate. That's a legitimate way to try to influence policy, but it's not academic research.

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