Ann Widdecombe

[SPLINE]

The public doesn't have a right to know what the police investigation has found on a daily or hourly basis. We find out if and when there's a trial. For once the old buggers moaning about the old days have a point, people don't have any patience anymore.

The old days before two-tier policing.

 

[festive]

According to the prosecution account, the defendant allegedly arrived wearing black gloves, already holding a concealed hammer, leaned towards the kitchen and said:

“Don’t suppose you have bank cards and ID?”

Lets have a rummage, Anne was quote below arguing for ID cards and immigrants.

“Is not the whole purpose of ID cards to discover those people?”

That could certainly be interpreted by a hostile political extremist as representing state identification being used to locate, exclude or remove undocumented people.


So lets take a look at some of the facts:

The apparently targeted journey and preparation;
Immediate violence rather than prolonged searching for valuables;
Oddly calm, conversational wording;
Widdecombe’s documented association with using identification to expose undocumented people;
Reported inquiries into a possible political or terrorist connection.

Sounds to me so far like a twisted individual who spent alot of time on SM and other groups/websites building this frustration and hate for her.

Hope Not Hate previously hosted a standalone section titled “Who is Ann Widdecombe?”, originally forming part of its 2019 material attacking senior Brexit Party figures. It accused her of a “long history of homophobic and sexist remarks” and of embracing “dangerous and divisive politics.” The page was removed shortly after her death.

Hope Not Hate said it removed the page as a “mark of respect”, described the removal as a routine editorial decision, and said it still stood by the article’s accuracy. Therefore, the organisation is not admitting that the page was improper or false.

Hope Not Hate maintains a current public database of people and organisations it categorises as far-right, radical-right, extremist, conspiracist or otherwise connected to those movements.

Calling it a “hate list” is a political interpretation, not Hope Not Hate’s terminology. There is no clear evidence that it is intended as a physical target list or that the organisation encourages violence.

However, the legitimate concern is that its publications can place elected mainstream politicians, controversial commentators, campaigners, convicted extremists and neo-Nazis within the same “State of Hate” framework. Even when separate labels and explanations are provided, that can create guilt by association and may encourage readers to regard everyone included as dangerous or morally equivalent. That is more defensible criticism than claiming the site literally operates an assassination or attack list.

 

[blup]

We've seen the evidence, a body, a hammer that was used 21 times on her head. It's the motive for her assassination we'll likely never know.

Does the presumption of innocence get a look in?

 

[blup]

According to the prosecution account, the defendant allegedly arrived wearing black gloves, already holding a concealed hammer, leaned towards the kitchen and said:



Lets have a rummage, Anne was quote below arguing for ID cards and immigrants.


That could certainly be interpreted by a hostile political extremist as representing state identification being used to locate, exclude or remove undocumented people.


So lets take a look at some of the facts:

The apparently targeted journey and preparation;
Immediate violence rather than prolonged searching for valuables;
Oddly calm, conversational wording;
Widdecombe’s documented association with using identification to expose undocumented people;
Reported inquiries into a possible political or terrorist connection.

Sounds to me so far like a twisted individual who spent alot of time on SM and other groups/websites building this frustration and hate for her.

Hope Not Hate previously hosted a standalone section titled “Who is Ann Widdecombe?”, originally forming part of its 2019 material attacking senior Brexit Party figures. It accused her of a “long history of homophobic and sexist remarks” and of embracing “dangerous and divisive politics.” The page was removed shortly after her death.

Hope Not Hate said it removed the page as a “mark of respect”, described the removal as a routine editorial decision, and said it still stood by the article’s accuracy. Therefore, the organisation is not admitting that the page was improper or false.



Calling it a “hate list” is a political interpretation, not Hope Not Hate’s terminology. There is no clear evidence that it is intended as a physical target list or that the organisation encourages violence.

However, the legitimate concern is that its publications can place elected mainstream politicians, controversial commentators, campaigners, convicted extremists and neo-Nazis within the same “State of Hate” framework. Even when separate labels and explanations are provided, that can create guilt by association and may encourage readers to regard everyone included as dangerous or morally equivalent. That is more defensible criticism than claiming the site literally operates an assassination or attack list.

The right have convicted him without ID cards

 

[festive]

The right have convicted him without ID cards

I would say 99% sure his quote from CCTV footage in Anne's house where he stated 'Don’t suppose you have bank cards and ID' is without question his motive for being there. He wanted to remind her that wether or not she linked the association or not in that moment was why he was there. That i am sure is 'right' closely linked with right.

 

[Deluks]

I reckon it was the Daily Mail that had told them what had happened.

If the Daily Mail said it, it must be true!

 

[Deluks]

If it were a robbery, burglars being disturbed don't generally hit you over the head with a hammer 21 times to make their escape, especially from an old lady. Also the picture of the murderer posted, he looks iinsane and looks like a typical political activist and nothing like your average burglar, They had arrested him quite quickly yet they were puzzled over his motive. There is more to this than meets the eye.

Maybe he's just a skitzoid who was 'hearing voices'

 

[aveatry]

Maybe he's just a skitzoid who was 'hearing voices'

No voices needed to be heard as he can read the farage and trump hate on this forum all thanks to noseall and warey4life.