Just for Joe

[Atilla]

By the way Joe,
Interesting bit of advice you made earlier today regarding testing batteries.
And a nice bit of judicious editing to get it removed later too.
Doubt you'll want to tell us all again how to do it.

 

[joe-90]

By the way Joe,
Interesting bit of advice you made earlier today regarding testing batteries.
And a nice bit of judicious editing to get it removed later too.
Doubt you'll want to tell us all again how to do it.

I haven't edited anything. A piece of fine wire (I usually use one core of multicore alarm cable) is the easiest way to get a rough check on the battery capacity as a meter will read 12v when the battery is almost duff.

 

[joe-90]

sorry code here

faulty batt can cause tamp on r8. end of

Short-circuit CAN - nobody is doubting that (I said that in my first post in the thread). However, when it reaches that stage the system won't operate.

You did?? News to the rest of us.

Us? How many do you speak for?

What I said in the first post of the thread was this:

"The most likely is the outside bell tamper switch as it gets all the weather out there. Could be the battery, but isn't the usual culprit."

 

[bernardgreen]

I haven't edited anything. A piece of fine wire (I usually use one core of multicore alarm cable) is the easiest way to get a rough check on the battery capacity as a meter will read 12v when the battery is almost duff.

Well if I had any doubts before I have none now after you suggested that method of battery testing. Joe, I am sure if someone else had suggested that as a battery testing method you would have applied your intellect to proving why it was not a good test of a battery. So for your own sake and the sake of any customers whose alarms you work on please think about it as if someone else had suggested that method to you.

 

[joe-90]

It's the commonly used field test amongst anyone that works with batteries that doesn't have a proper 'under-load tester'. What do you suggest? The battery had already passed it's replacement date, and would be going to the recycle centre anyway. All the test is deigned to prove is whether there is an charge left in it. If it has - then the fault condition wasn't caused by battery malfunction and the engineer will then look elsewhere for the problem.

Oh and I seem to recall that you are no expert on alarms as you seem to think that PIRs can 'see' through windows and cause false alarms.

 

[saxondale]

sorry code here

faulty batt can cause tamp on r8. end of

Short-circuit CAN - nobody is doubting that (I said that in my first post in the thread). However, when it reaches that stage the system won't operate.

er - you said its more likely to be....... when theres an obvious indicator if it is a bell tamper, you just dont know what your talking about

so panels don`t detect that there no longer charging the battery (ie your "open curcuit.." do they, hmm you must have googled some seriously cheap tat to work that one out

 

[saxondale]

By the way Joe,
Interesting bit of advice you made earlier today regarding testing batteries.
And a nice bit of judicious editing to get it removed later too.
Doubt you'll want to tell us all again how to do it.

I haven't edited anything. A piece of fine wire (I usually use one core of multicore alarm cable) is the easiest way to get a rough check on the battery capacity as a meter will read 12v when the battery is almost duff.

WTF - thats a wind up

 

[joe-90]

sorry code here

faulty batt can cause tamp on r8. end of

Short-circuit CAN - nobody is doubting that (I said that in my first post in the thread). However, when it reaches that stage the system won't operate.

er - you said its more likely to be....... when theres an obvious indicator if it is a bell tamper, you just dont know what your talking about

so panels don`t detect that there no longer charging the battery (ie your "open curcuit.." do they, hmm you must have googled some seriously cheap tat to work that one out

How many times do I have to offer you a technical discussion about what happens inside a panel circuitry? What's the point? You just don't know how things work at all.

 

[joe-90]

By the way Joe,
Interesting bit of advice you made earlier today regarding testing batteries.
And a nice bit of judicious editing to get it removed later too.
Doubt you'll want to tell us all again how to do it.

I haven't edited anything. A piece of fine wire (I usually use one core of multicore alarm cable) is the easiest way to get a rough check on the battery capacity as a meter will read 12v when the battery is almost duff.

WTF - thats a wind up

?

 

[saxondale]

It's the commonly used field test amongst anyone that works with batteries that doesn't have a proper 'under-load tester'. What do you suggest? The battery had already passed it's replacement date, and would be going to the recycle centre anyway. All the test is deigned to prove is whether there is an charge left in it. If it has - then the fault condition wasn't caused by battery malfunction and the engineer will then look elsewhere for the problem.

Oh and I seem to recall that you are no expert on alarms as you seem to think that PIRs can 'see' through windows and cause false alarms.

THIS IS NOT A COMMANLY USED FIELD TEST AMONGST ANYONE THAT WORKS WITH BATTERIES

your a madman

lets see - your going to deliberalty destroy a battery to test it, if it "sparks.." it was good but now dead and if it doesnt "spark.." then it was dead anyway

didnt they used to do something similar with witches ?

your a dangerous fool