America and Guns

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Sylvan Tieger

Try gunsmith as more shot guns and rifles get older along with amazing semi auto's like my Sig 226 someone has to be able to replace the worn parts.

My AK 47 for example has fired thousands of rounds (7.62 x 39) ammo and as the spring starts to fail someone have to be able to fix these firearms as I certainly am not going to ship it back to Russia for minor repairs.


Remember Jolly old England when Chamberlain (******) muttered "peace in our time" as Hitler told this moron what to do with his piece of paper and England came crying to America and other countries for firearms as the Brit Government couldn't even defend themselves

History has a habit of repeating itself and gun repair will play a key role in the future as very few skilled craftsmen are now able to repair these fine peace keeping tools.
 
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Sylvan Tieger";p="813662 said:
(Remember Jolly old England when Chamberlain (****) muttered "peace in our time" as Hitler told this moron what to do with his piece of paper and England came crying to America and other countries for firearms as the Brit Government couldn't even defend themselves )

Was there any american firearms on our Hurricanes and Spitfires ,don't recall any friendly fire incidents being reported during those dark days.
 
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(Remember Jolly old England when Chamberlain (****) muttered "peace in our time" as Hitler told this moron what to do with his piece of paper and England came crying to America and other countries for firearms as the Brit Government couldn't even defend themselves )

Was there any american firearms on our Hurricanes and Spitfires ,don't recall any friendly fire incidents being reported during those dark days.
How TRUE the spitfire was an amazing air craft ALMOST as good as the B 52
 
gun repair will play a key role in the future as very few skilled craftsmen are now able to repair these fine peace keeping tools.

These fine peace keeping tools................. :rolleyes:

Tell that to the 25,000 plus, gun death victims in the USA each year.
 
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gun repair will play a key role in the future as very few skilled craftsmen are now able to repair these fine peace keeping tools.

These fine peace keeping tools................. :rolleyes:

Tell that to the 25,000 plus, gun death victims in the USA each year.

Yes 25,000 got killed by GUNS as President clinton killed a woman and her son and the vfamily dog and then managed to have over 90 peple killed in Texas SEE RUBY Ridge on the net THEN look up Senator Kennedy and how he along with other DRINK folks kill several HUNDRED thousands of people .

The 25,000 you quote is INCLUDING illegal gun ownership and police "friendly fire" and police shooting unarmed people.

If you bothered to research the numbers you would find the legal gun owners account for .001% and this is proven in FBI and interpol findings

Now why not ask how many "blokes" are nmurdered by DRUNK drivers VS gun owners how about knife and club murders?

How about rapres VS gun crimes by licensed gun owners GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

You seem to forget we had to kick the British out of America as we happen to love FREEDOM and the folks who escaped england saw fit to make gun ownership the 2nd top priority AFTER freedom of speech.
 
Now why am I not surprised to hear that Sylvan Tieger claims he/she has an AK47? :rolleyes:

Sylvan Tieger said:
My AK 47 for example has fired thousands of rounds (7.62 x 39) ammo...
And not one of those rounds managed to achieve what we all wanted. :(
 
They may all be gun nuts, but lets face it...


Rambo 4 is gonna kick ass!!

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Now why am I not surprised to hear that Sylvan Tieger claims he/she has an AK47? :rolleyes:

Sylvan Tieger said:
My AK 47 for example has fired thousands of rounds (7.62 x 39) ammo...
And not one of those rounds managed to achieve what we all wanted. :(



First off the reason for the AKA and the SKS is the 7.62 x 39 is the same ammo used for both rifles and it cost less then 19 cents a shot and is great for target shooting out to 100 yards.

These firearms were never meant to be used for great distances BUT the recoil is a heck of a lot less then my favorite jewel of craftsmanship

My Benelli M 1 Super 90 shoot gun is really one of the best out there for home defense and even

But the ammunition can be quite expensive when shooting several hours

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh02-e.htm << my favorite

My traveling companion is a 9MM http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/226/226.htm

This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine < I just shot once in a great while as it is just a piece of history and the M-1 carbine was never meant to be considered an assault firearm but it was better then using a 45 cal pistol when you had to defend the troops.

Guns do NOT kill people It is People who kill people NONE of my vast number of firearms ever picked themselves up and loaded thenselves and shot at anyone.

As a matter of fact not one ever escaped the locker I keep them in.

CARS should be banned and SIGNS stating "gun free zones" should be posted so criminals would not attack soft targets as the sign says keep guns out just like the signs dogs keep off the grass as DOGS will never violate a posted sign .

If guns do not prevent crime then why do they have armed guards watching over gold shipments?

Do you think gold is worth more then a womans right to protect her virtue?
 
The only reason I became a GUN NUT is because President Clinton had settled out of court wronful deaths and I figured under his regime of terror with a government attacking citizens it was time to start loading up with firearms.. I never owed a gun UNTIL Clinton sent Janet KILL EM Reno to butcher innocent men, women, chilldren and farm animals and a family dog .

When a government goes nuts like most tyrants the very first thing they do is register and confiscate guns.

This history has proven over and over and over.

Switzerland everyone is armed YET no one is going on a shooting rampage.

When I was 17 years old in the military along with other armed teenagers we did NOT shoot at each other or at civilians.

I wonder how safe it is to walk London streets at night with no protection?

IF there was an ARMED citizens on a plane I wonder how many lives would have been spared during 911.

In todays world we cannot depend on the police to be our protectors as we have to take some personal responsibility for our well being.

Someone is attacking you with a knife you get on the TELLY and pray that the police are not on another energency call or stuck in traffic
 
And not one of those rounds managed to achieve what we all wanted. :(
First off the reason for the AKA and the SKS is the 7.62 x 39 is the same ammo used for both rifles and it cost less then 19 cents a shot and is great for target shooting out to 100 yards.

These firearms were never meant to be used for great distances BUT the recoil is a heck of a lot less then my favorite jewel of craftsmanship

My Benelli M 1 Super 90 shoot gun is really one of the best out there for home defense and even

But the ammunition can be quite expensive when shooting several hours

My traveling companion is a 9MM

This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine I just shot once in a great while as it is just a piece of history and the M-1 carbine was never meant to be considered an assault firearm but it was better then using a 45 cal pistol when you had to defend the troops.
Let's face it - you're just mental about guns. Let's hope that you don't bear any grudges against schoolteachers or we'll soon be hearing about yet another US schoolroom slaughter. :rolleyes:

Guns do NOT kill people It is People who kill people
That's a fatuous principle - I'd rather be threatened by a deranged lunatic armed with a banana than a supposedly sober American with more weaponry in his under-the-stairs cupboard than my local police station has ever had.

NONE of my vast number of firearms ever picked themselves up and loaded thenselves and shot at anyone.
Nevertheless, I find myself willing one of them to do just that.

As a matter of fact not one ever escaped the locker I keep them in.
The more worrying fact is that you have.

CARS should be banned and SIGNS stating "gun free zones" should be posted so criminals would not attack soft targets as the sign says keep guns out just like the signs dogs keep off the grass as DOGS will never violate a posted sign .
Yes I can see where you're headed with that dry wit, but sadly your comedy satnav has taken you down a blind alley.

If guns do not prevent crime then why do they have armed guards watching over gold shipments?
To kill the gold robbers before they can get too far away?

Do you think gold is worth more then a womans right to protect her virtue?
It doesn't matter what I think about that - the guns are there to satisfy the people who own the gold. You gun-crazed barking mad nutter.
 
That's a fatuous principle - I'd rather be threatened by a deranged lunatic armed with a banana than a supposedly sober American with more weaponry in his under-the-stairs cupboard than my local police station has ever had.

Make sure its well lubed...and the green ones are better.... apparently :rolleyes:

The worrying thing about all this gun malarky is the 'justification'..people over here dont carry guns for protection...its the villians who carry guns, offensively.

The gun is, and always will be an 'offensive' weapon

As for 'Guns dont kill people people do'...if they didnt have anything in their hand to fire the person on the receiving end wouldnt be getting a bullet between their ears.
 
If there are no guns then women would not be raped or wives battered by a drunken spouse and no one would dare use a knife or baseball bat to kill.

Just think about the almost 3,000 souls who perished because of "box cutters"

Having a sign "gun free school zone " did not stop the non English reading person from shooting up the place Or having a criminal stop read the sign and take heed to it.

What the news papers did not bother to mention is that one nut case went on a shooting rampage and a teacher went calmly to her car, took out her revolver and ended the shooting spree with a well placed 357 magnum shot.

From the NET

" Figures for England, Wales and Northern Ireland show that nearly nine per cent of drivers tested after collisions during the Christmas and New Year period failed a breath test - the highest since 1997/1998. The estimated number of people killed in drink-related accidents in Great Britain went up from 530 in 2001 to 560 in 2002. Figures for people injured in drink-drive accidents are also on the rise."

GUESS one should post NO drinking while driving signs to save lives

Have another pint for the road like our ANTI gun Senator Ted Kennedy who also took a life while drunk driving and left the lass to drown as he stumbled away.

Notice he is not in jail BUT the girl was still killed and this fine upstanding senator is saying guns kill.

His family took the lives of more women then all my "assault" firearms combined, so far 4 women dead by the Kennedy clan and all without the use of a firearm

560 MURDERS in English speaking countries, how unnerving BUT at least they did not own a gun so they should not be punished as no one had posted no drunk driving allowed on holiday

By the way LEGAL gun owners killed a lot less then 560 people (including break ins and self defense)

Never let the facts get in the way as it may give a bloke a headache.

A pimple on an English politicians ARSE is called a brain tumor unless your in Oz then its ok to allow the new comers in the country with firearms


http://davekopel.org/2A/OpEds/Gun-Permits-amount-to-peacemakers.htm

United Nations Report ENGLAND Fails again
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/798708/posts <<

http://www.gunowners.org/sk0703.htm

England: According to the BBC News, handgun crime in the United Kingdom rose by 40% in the two years after it passed its draconian gun ban in 1997. IMAGINE THAT who would have guessed :)

Could you imagine how Ireland could not have prevented the Brits from attacking if they were totally unarmed.

Guns do keep a country safe and Citizens are in contol as we cherish freedom

Fox hunting anyone... OOPS I fogot they took away most of your long guns so only the criminals now posses them

Are their any more rights you feel like giving away to out of control governments?

Didn't Hitler start gun restriction then confiscation I Guess the parliament did learn something from a dictatorship.

Once you loose one freedom the rest fall much more easy..

ZEIG HEIL to goverments who can control their citizens like sheep going to a slaughter

Dont worry mate you can always have a pint and go driving on Christmas as some lawyer will defend your right to drink, UNLESS they ban drinking on holidays
 
Sylvan Tieger said:
Having a sign "gun free school zone " did not stop the non English reading person from shooting up the place
But preventing him from having a gun would have prevented him shooting at children.

What the news papers did not bother to mention is that one nut case went on a shooting rampage and a teacher went calmly to her car, took out her revolver and ended the shooting spree with a well placed 357 magnum shot.
That's right - the shooting spree occurred because a nutter had a gun; because your country is adorned with nutters who have guns.

From the NET

" Figures for England, Wales and Northern Ireland show that nearly nine per cent of drivers tested after collisions during the Christmas and New Year period failed a breath test - the highest since 1997/1998.
That's right - the powers given to police to stop and test have been increased since 1997/1998, therefore one would expect the detection rate to increase.

Have another pint for the road like our ANTI gun Senator Ted Kennedy who also took a life while drunk driving and left the lass to drown as he stumbled away.
Nothing to do with guns then. :rolleyes:

Notice he is not in jail BUT the girl was still killed and this fine upstanding senator is saying guns kill.
And he is correct.

His family took the lives of more women then all my "assault" firearms combined, so far 4 women dead by the Kennedy clan and all without the use of a firearm
That's because they're corrupt politicians, not because he's wrong about guns. :rolleyes:

Never let the facts get in the way as it may give a bloke a headache.
I agree. You should try looking up some facts.

England: According to the BBC News, handgun crime in the United Kingdom rose by 40% in the two years after it passed its draconian gun ban in 1997.
Handgun crime was set to rise - the change in law has slowed the increase.

Guns do keep a country safe and Citizens are in contol as we cherish freedom
Your country is not safe. You kill each other with guns.

Fox hunting anyone... OOPS I fogot they took away most of your long guns
No they didn't.

Are their any more rights you feel like giving away to out of control governments?
What do you think is out of control about the UK government? Let's not forget that you elected George W. Bush.

ZEIG HEIL to goverments who can control their citizens like sheep going to a slaughter
You're doing a good impression of a foolish gun-crazed fascist.
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Edit: I've stopped watching this topic, and I declare myself out.
 
Student kills five in US college shooting

"A man opened fire in a crowded lecture hall at Northern Illinois University on Thursday, killing five people and injuring many more before turning the gun on himself"

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/741f5a46-db53-11dc-9fdd-0000779fd2ac.html

another of them :rolleyes:

As the saying goes, guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.



Its kind of ironic how morons do NOT read between the lines not bothering to think about what they read

GUNS kill JUST like a fork and spoon makes people FAT and the CAR makes people DRUNK drivers I bet more folks are killed by drunk drivers then LEGAL gun ownership

What a real moron did not read is how a nut case on depression medications was able to RE LOAD three (3) times without anyone having the ability to put him down like a rabid dog.

A legal gun holder would have prevented the reloading THUS again proving an armed licensed citizen can save lives.


I wonder if they say teenagers with guns are going on a crime spree then I would imagine all the worlds armies would only have 30+ year olds carrying firearms as teenagers in the armed forces would be having shoot outs killing each other HUH MATE?

If people have the right to carry a concealed firearm and someone wants to go on a crime spree they would think twice about using a weapon where they know other folks are armed and have the ability to stop a crime in progress.

UNLIKE drunk drivers which many are politicians, Judges, off duty "peace officers" a gun can stop a crime in progress how do you prevent a blokes right to drive drunk and get away with murder?

If someone is killed by a firearm the charges against them are much harsher then one for someone driving through cross walk with children and killing several as they would never be put in prison for life

Why not look up gun related crimes (licensed people) and other violent crimes committed without the use of a firearm.

If the shooter was able to reload three times and fired into a crowd and killed 5, this alone should prove he had no business using a gun as a licensed pistol /revolver shooter has to use the gun like any other tool and PRACTICE how to shoot accurately, not spray and pray shooting.

Ever notice that the majority of people shot with a pistol or revolver survive and those hit with a rife bullet or a shot gun meet their maker?

Again this proves the shooter was not very well versed in shooting or had any formal training THUS it was not legally attained firearm as he did have a mental defect

Having the ability to shoot wild and reload shows again posting a sign GUN FREE ZONE is the same mentality as keep dogs off the grass as the dog wont pay much attention to the sign.


Let's face it the British Empire is ruled by an iron fist and think nothing about taking away the basic human right defends one home as a mans home is no longer his castle in that part of the world. This is why folks escaped the bloody country to set up a democracy and were able to vote for freedoms not allowed in many dictatorships or one run by tyrants.

The Media is very biased and very lax in reporting.

A prime example would be an unskilled non licensed individual (bloke) dabbling as gas fitter (LMP) and causes a horrific explosion and the press would jump on it saying " A plumber / gas fitter caused a major explosion in England this morning killing hundreds"

Never would the media actually state "a non licensed stumble bum dabbling in gas work killed innocent people"

Instead they would do like they are doing with gun issues leaving out the truth as people in certain countries are too stupid to read and facts just confuse them so the media has to just make into simpleton language GUNS KILL, forks make people over eat as the truth in the press is not going to sell papers.

They hide in the back pages the articles where a nurse working the mid night shift is walking home and her attacker was shot while trying to assault her THAT never makes the front pages.

Or a home invasion is stopped by 83 year old WW 2 vet who happened to own a shot gun the criminal had several prior arrests but was out on parole when he broke into the farm house and the old man put an end to this criminals life of crime with one placed 1 Oz slug though the mutts forehead.

This is not what the media and certainly the British government want to citizens to see

What the British love seeing is "Would be criminal was shot after breaking into a farmers house and the farmer had no right to shoot this man even if it was in his home"

He should have called the coppers and waited for help to arrive and let the criminal has his way, thus the home owner will be put in prison with the criminals friends as the criminal now can sue the home owner for shooting him and causing him to stop his break ins until he heals properly thus the home owner is responsible for all medical bills incurred and compensation for pain and suffering and mental anguish....



NOW this is politically correct news coverage
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