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I think the argument from the doctors was that they have a family life aswell so would your argument suggest more doctors employed?
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if all the time wasters that clog up doctors surgeries after the first sign of a cold, were to stay at home with a lem-sip, then that may allow those that really need treatment, access to it.
I know times have changed, but the doctors of old were on call all the time just about. I remember (when I were a nipper) that if you needed the doctor at night or the weekend, you phoned the surgery, the answering machine gave you the phone number of the doctor that was on call that day and you just phoned him at home. He then decided via the phone call if he needed to come out to you or not.
Nowadays, you have to go through that stupid NHS24 where you could be dead or better by the time they answer the phone, then you get somebody that actually doesn't have a clue what you're talking about. If you've got a rare-ish illness, they're stuffed. They don't know what to do with you, so they tell you to go to the doctor!
I know our doctor's surgery is a pain in the backside. You have to phone on the day for an appointment but every man and his dog is trying to phone at 8 in the morning and they've only got two phone lines. By the time you get through, they tell you they're fully booked - but if you were to go into the surgery, there'd be nobody in the waiting room - so where's all these patients that they're fully booked with?
But that's getting away from the point. What is wrong with them working a rota system, the way they used to do? It'd just be like anyone else that works overtime or in the health service - I used to have to work shifts - them's the breaks when you work in the NHS and when you take the job on, you're well aware of that, so there's no point in moaning about it. People aren't sick just 9-5. And I hear you say "What about the one or two doctor practices?" Well the simple answer there is to form a co-operative of small practices so that it spreads their rota system out a bit more fairly, amongst more doctors.
And I will be running for Health Secretary in the next election.........
Nowadays, you have to go through that stupid NHS24 where you could be dead or better by the time they answer the phone, then you get somebody that actually doesn't have a clue what you're talking about. If you've got a rare-ish illness, they're stuffed. They don't know what to do with you, so they tell you to go to the doctor!
I know our doctor's surgery is a pain in the backside. You have to phone on the day for an appointment but every man and his dog is trying to phone at 8 in the morning and they've only got two phone lines. By the time you get through, they tell you they're fully booked - but if you were to go into the surgery, there'd be nobody in the waiting room - so where's all these patients that they're fully booked with?
But that's getting away from the point. What is wrong with them working a rota system, the way they used to do? It'd just be like anyone else that works overtime or in the health service - I used to have to work shifts - them's the breaks when you work in the NHS and when you take the job on, you're well aware of that, so there's no point in moaning about it. People aren't sick just 9-5. And I hear you say "What about the one or two doctor practices?" Well the simple answer there is to form a co-operative of small practices so that it spreads their rota system out a bit more fairly, amongst more doctors.
And I will be running for Health Secretary in the next election.........
Many already do just that ... Down here we have the Devon Doc and Cornwall have the Kerno Doc out of hours services.
Trouble is they don't have access to your medical records so they can do no more really than emergency medicine really and, if I were that bad in the middle of the night that I didn't feel I could wait until the morning, it would be time for a 3 hour 59 minute wait at the local A&E department
MW
mega, could you not get copies of your medical record for obvious reasons, may solve a few problems?
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Many already do just that ... Down here we have the Devon Doc and Cornwall have the Kerno Doc out of hours services.
Trouble is they don't have access to your medical records so they can do no more really than emergency medicine really and, if I were that bad in the middle of the night that I didn't feel I could wait until the morning, it would be time for a 3 hour 59 minute wait at the local A&E department
MW
I work in the GP OOH i am not a doctor but i do know if you ring us and you are genuinely ill you get seen by a Dr or a Nurse practitioner depending on your illness. Not having your medical records in the OOH is a big problem but it all comes down to patient confidentiality as YOU the patient have not given permission for US the GP OOH to view your record only your surgery. But if you give the person on the end of the phone your medical history even if its condensed it goes on to their system and can be looked back over if you call again.
NHS24 or NHS Direct is a cheaper alternative to your LHB or PCT supplying the the triage service themselves (or so they think). We supply our own triage and find it is very efficient the main people that complain are the ones that don't really need to see a GP there and then, the triage is that good that it can weed the ones out that don't need to be seen.
Any way off my soap box and back to the original question
Yes i personally think there should be an alternative pace for you to go and see a GP at a more convenient time and it already exists but it is more geared up for severe illness rather than general medicine if the funding were there and the patient confidentiality issues were got over then i see reason why the GP OOH cannot facilitate this need at a major cost reduction to the NHS if it were to open the surgery up later at night etc.
I can explain in more detail how the GP OOH works if you so wish or would like to know just let me know
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