Problems in the NHS

[gasbanni]

Is one of the biggest problems part time doctors Gp's ?

My wife's surgery was closed one whole day every week for 'Training ' the whole surgery closed no skeleton service ....closed ........no longer the case I think they were pulled up about it.

Only 30odd% of doctors work full time !!!!!!!! What !!!!! No wonder it takes three weeks to see a doctor.
Stupid Blair was responsible by massively increasing doctors pay, resulting in this fiasco.

No wonder they can manage nicely on part time hours .........they should have to work 40 hours like most other people. It's stating the obvious but out of 100 doctors nearly 70 are on part time hours ! Plainly ridiculous.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Is one of the biggest problems part time doctors Gp's ?

My wife's surgery was closed one whole day every week for 'Training ' the whole surgery closed no skeleton service ....closed ........no longer the case I think they were pulled up about it.

Only 30odd% of doctors work full time !!!!!!!! What !!!!! No wonder it takes three weeks to see a doctor.
Stupid Blair was responsible by massively increasing doctors pay, resulting in this fiasco.

No wonder they can manage nicely on part time hours .........they should have to work 40 hours like most other people. It's stating the obvious but out of 100 doctors nearly 70 are on part time hours ! Plainly ridiculous.

Actually, I read in the news a little while ago that GP's are going part time because they're so stressed out and the hours of working/pressure are nuts. They were working a 60hr + week. It has nothing to do with pay, but a lot to do with government underfunding (there's a shocker).

Do you not think it's understandable that some GP's are now working 'part time' to a more work/life balance of about 40+ hours a week?

No, I guess it doesn't suit your way of thinking Gas.

https://www.gponline.com/less-three-10-gps-work-full-time-official-data-show/article/1522455

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/gp...full-time-says-official-data/20037483.article

 

[charliegolf]

Training is training, and nothing to do with the FTE of the workers in the surgery, but their currency in the job. Second, you seem to be suggesting that the best way to fill spots in a job that seemingly, doctors don't want to do, is to make it less attractive to them? Thirdly, GPs aren't NHS employees. They contract to it. Finally, if every GP slot was filled, and everyone could be seen on the same day (like mine, more or less), how'd you think waiting lists and time would be looking? The NHS's problems are about hospital capacity.

 

[Notch7]

I think you find a lot of doctor are cutting down NHS work and doing more private days.

and its a very stressful job, even on a £100k almost as much as a plumber

 

[Ihavenojob]

Do you not think it's understandable that some GP's are now working 'part time' to a more work/life balance of about 40+ hours a week?

The answer would be to take a partner into the practice to share the workload (and the money the surgery receives per patient).

 

[sodthisforfun]

The answer would be to take a partner into the practice to share the workload (and the money the surgery receives per patient).

I think people are in denial that actually, working for the NHS is no longer a great job. It's understaffed, underfunded and a whole load more patients. I personally know a midwife, a nurse, an ophthalmologist and 3 radiographers, 2 computer specialists within the NHS (radiography dept) and a breast cancer radiographer specialist. All work on average a 12 hour day without a proper break. All are miserable and stressed.

One of the radiographers last year cut a whole day off the working week because of the stress of the job and not having a life. So he took a pay cut in order to actually live a life.

 

[Ihavenojob]

I think people are in denial that actually, working for the NHS is no longer a great job. It's understaffed, underfunded and a whole load more patients.

Agreed, but it must be attractive for doctors to come from abroad to work there. The government really need to start raising taxes and (especially) national insurance for all.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Agreed, but it must be attractive for doctors to come from abroad to work there. The government really need to start raising taxes and (especially) national insurance for all.

Yes they do but none of them will because it's a vote loser.

They need to reinvest that money directly into training (bring back bursaries) and filling those spaces where there are no staff. It's ridiculous that both parties have allowed to let it get into this mess.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Maybe an online purchase tax, twice as much if it comes from abroad, could go towards green projects. If all parties had it in their manifesto it would have to happen, as no party would get in and then give up the right to raise taxes.

 

[Notch7]

The government really need to start raising taxes and (especially) national insurance for all

Totally agree.

The NHS has spiralling demands and no increase in budgets.

PFI
Diabetes
Ever increasing elderly population



The German and French models work well, but people pay much more to support it.

 

[JohnD]

Some say that the Tory policy of underfunding the NHS and social care despite our large numbers of elderly and infirm Tory voters, is a cunning ploy by anti-Tory moles. The policy will reduce the numbers of elderly, thus cutting Tory votes and allowing a different party to come to power.

 

[Vinty]

Maybe the NHS and the welfare state should be abolished because according to Andy11 having a welfare net and a health service free at the point of use causes people to go out and commit crime.

 

[^woody^]

Some say that the Tory policy of underfunding the NHS and social care despite our large numbers of elderly and infirm Tory voters, is a cunning ploy by anti-Tory moles. The policy will reduce the numbers of elderly, thus cutting Tory votes and allowing a different party to come to power.

Others say the doctors are chokka with sponging migrants who've not paid a sheckle into the NHS but are getting top quality free care whilst taxpayers are "currently number 26 in the queue" for an appointment.

 

[JohnD]

however, since aged and infirm citizens put the highest demands on services, and fit, working age immigrants the lowest, that story doesn't fit the facts.

Falling standards in health and social services have the greatest effects on the aged and infirm

Tory support is at its highest among the old, and at its lowest among the young.

Which party will lose the most voters in a hard winter with a bad flu epidemic?

 

[SirGalahad]

Others say the doctors are chokka with sponging migrants who've not paid a sheckle into the NHS but are getting top quality free care whilst taxpayers are "currently number 26 in the queue" for an appointment.

More Horse s hit.

The biggest users of the NHS are the elderly. Old people with multiple chronic ailments.

About 85% of the publics interactions are with primary care but only about 10% of the funding goes to it. GPs are cutting their hours because in a 10 minute consultation they need to review notes, examine the patient, write the notes, create a plan of action and inform the patient.

On top of the time you see the GP they have a mountain of admin. So GP's are going part time and surgerys are using Nurse practitioners to do some of the work. But it boils down to service cuts. Blair correctly increased spending in primary care but the investments have not kept up.

The service just needs some more investment.

Also factor in that just over 50% of medical graduates are women who generally favour working part time.