electric oven and hob plug- hard wire

Taylortwocities · 7 Dec 2012

Iggifer said:
or this:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/volex-cooker-outlet-plate/50538

which is considerably cheaper, and a recognised brand.

Cheaper it may be, but it is only designed for one cable up to 10mm² to be connected.

The dual connection plate (linked to on eBAY) is made by Click Scolmore.
A more quality make than Volex I would contend - and also made for the purpose of connecting two different CSA cables!

EFLImpudence · 7 Dec 2012

Not sure whether the Volex is dual or not.

I am a bit concerned about the one on ebay as it looks quite long and OP's outlet does not appear to be a flush fitting.

koolkat · 9 Dec 2012

I've just realised that the dual outlet plate is too bug for the space in the wall available. i have a cable running at the top and the gas pipe just below. So I suppose is back to wiring the oven with a cable and 13 amp plug for the cooker socket...?
I can't find the amp anywhere on the oven (I don't have the manual) but is 1925 w.

Iggifer · 9 Dec 2012

1925 is just over 8a so you will be fine to put a 13a plug on it, but as already stated, you will need to put a smaller cable on the cooker

and TTC is correct, not a dual plate I linked to, misread the page, sorry

EFLImpudence · 9 Dec 2012

You can put all the wires in the existing connection plate although you may have to 'adjust' the cable restraint.

I'm sure I've seen a 1 gang (size) square dual connector but I can't find it on the net.

koolkat · 9 Dec 2012

EFLImpudence said:
You can put all the wires in the existing connection plate although you may have to 'adjust' the cable restraint.

I'm sure I've seen a 1 gang (size) square dual connector but I can't find it on the net.

If I can really do this it would be the easiest by far. Are there any risks to this?

EFLImpudence · 9 Dec 2012

No,

but you must make sure the cables are held securely by the restraint.

kkynaston · 10 Dec 2012

I wouldn't have thought that connecting the oven to the outlet plate with the hob would be a good idea.
40 amp protective device protecting a cable that looks at most 4mm
I believed all single ovens were designed for plug and socket outlet.

I would have thought wiring into a plug or changing the socket for a 13amp fused spur with a flex outlet would be the safest.

I would also make sure that your switch marked 'ignition' (for the old gas hob) hasn't got a fuse in it. If it has, you may need to change it for a 13amp.
Then obviously relabel as 'oven'

My hob ignition is fused above the counter at 5amps

EFLImpudence · 10 Dec 2012

kkynaston said:
I wouldn't have thought that connecting the oven to the outlet plate with the hob would be a good idea.
40 amp protective device protecting a cable that looks at most 4mm

Yes, quite right if it is 4mm².

It may be alright (re. no overload) but don't like advising so on the forum.

Use 6mm².

koolkat · 10 Dec 2012

The oven cable is about 1 cm thick (10mm). The three cables inside are 5mm each.

Taylortwocities · 10 Dec 2012

Cable sizes are gives as cross sectional area of the conductor. So you'd need a micrometer and some maths to work out what the csa of the conductor really is.

Often it is written on the cable itself.

koolkat · 10 Dec 2012

Taylortwocities said:
Cable sizes are gives as cross sectional area of the conductor. So you'd need a micrometer and some maths to work out what the csa of the conductor really is.

Often it is written on the cable itself.

I have the micrometer (15 mm) but don't have the math. Back to the 13 amp for now. I'll graduate next time...

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