Spot boards and bigger walls

NickB_99 · 8 Jan 2014

Hello all.

Part way through doing the lounge/diner and I have probably the longest wall that I've needed to skim before.
At 7.5m long, is probably small by pro standards, but is a new proposition for me, as I don't do it that often now.

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NickB_99
8 Jan 2014
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I figure I can break it up into two, and blend in fairly easily over the wood door. However, I've never needed to do this before, and I feel it's cheating! So i feel I should stretch myself.

I will do the 2 coats in 2 mixes, but I've concerns that each mix won't all fit on my spot board, which is about 1/3rd of an old door.
Generally, I like to get the finish mix out of the bucket onto a spot board so I can quickly clean out the bucket before starting. Then no delay with mix #2.

How do you guys deal with large mixes and spot boards? Is my board too small? Or do you get a labourer to keep the spot board filled then go wash the bucket?
Advice welcome on tackling this one, so I don't ar*e it up on Friday afternoon!

Skimmers · 9 Jan 2014

As a diyer there is an number of things you can do
But first is that WBA i see painted onto the wall and the tub on the floor??
spot boards are normally about 600mm/600mm but what ever floats your boat.

if you have use WBA then just hit it in one go i would if your worried about it setting in the bucket use a bit grilla tub and just feed out of the bucket big tubs in wickes are about £10 75L I think. will take 2 bags of finish in one go
you could put on as much as you can handle and blend in the joint above the door will be the smallest gap to do it it.

Id say a good 2 bager to get it on then one over the top to finish
most guys could handle that in one go.
just rember to look after your edges and dont panic just chill its only plastering not rocket since.

Skimmers · 9 Jan 2014

As you was saying about spot board ect if your not up to feeding out of bucket then why not do a rolling sett?

If say the wall is 7m by 2.4m this works out at 16m2 what I would do is break the wall into 3 sections and put chalk lines on the wall to indicate where the 3 sections are.

call them A B and C.

Mix up and lay on A
Mix up and lay on B
Flatten in A
Mix up and lay on c
Flatten in B
Second coat A
Flatten in c
Second coat b

etc etc etc

stevethespreader · 9 Jan 2014

DIYnewbee99 said:
However, I've never needed to do this before, and I feel it's cheating! So i feel I should stretch myself.

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cutting that hit into two is not cheating pros do it all the time but the hits would be bigger if say a pro was faced with a large hit that he felt he couldent do in one he would split it but if you feel up for the challenge go for it I regularly stretch myself look at the hit and say go for it this will involve one of those 75 ltr gorilla tubs skimmers is on about filled to the top
no "spotboard" if your going to do it all in one cross trowel it as soon as you can so its nice and flat

NickB_99 · 9 Jan 2014

Skimmers/Steve - feedback much appreciated.

Skimmers said:
But first is that WBA i see painted onto the wall and the tub on the floor??

Yes, it's WBA. Stripped off the wallpaper revealing painted plaster, so added WBA for a decent key.
Part of the wall is onto bonding, where I had to pad out part of it to bring level with original. My block work was a bit far in!

If you go with a rolling set, can it be divided to just the two? Given there is a good natural divide for the door (easier blend in) and I can manage half in one mix.

stevethespreader · 9 Jan 2014

DIYnewbee99 said:
If you go with a rolling set, can it be divided to just the two? Given there is a good natural divide for the door (easier blend in) and I can manage half in one mix.

both those options are easy newb but im quoting you on your previous post
"AND THAT IS YOU FEEL THE NEED TO STRETCHYOURSELF" so I say go for it do it all in one I have followed you through all your diy adventures and if you feel like that I say go for it I think you can do it go on stretch yourself

roy c · 10 Jan 2014

stevethespreader said:
DIYnewbee99 said:

If you go with a rolling set, can it be divided to just the two? Given there is a good natural divide for the door (easier blend in) and I can manage half in one mix.

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both those options are easy newb but im quoting you on your previous post
"AND THAT IS YOU FEEL THE NEED TO STRETCHYOURSELF" so I say go for it do it all in one I have followed you through all your diy adventures and if you feel like that I say go for it I think you can do it go on stretch yourself

I also go along with what Steve says .Go for it mucka.....

Micilin · 10 Jan 2014

Go for it, you know what to do just this one is a bit bigger. You keep everything clean so no problems there.

Good idea too to think about where you would join , shows planning .
A board and stand is obviously much quicker than using out of a bucket but unless you can find a bit of ply or something for free then no point for just one wall. It might be something you try to see if it is quicker or not for yourself.

Make sure the heat is off in the room for couple of hours before starting. Open the windows /patio door to cool down the room as you get set up and while mixing, then close them to stop a breeze.

Are you doing the reveals in with it?

NickB_99 · 10 Jan 2014

Micilin said:
Are you doing the reveals in with it?

Really good tips Micilin, thanks.

I will do the reveals, but another day.
Plan is to crack on with the main wall today - when I get out of work at least!

NickB_99 · 10 Jan 2014

Well, did the wall this afternoon. Not quite according to plan, but finished.

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Went for it, but had to bail part way.

I've not mixed a full bag before. Instructions reckoned 11.5L water, so I went for 12 and took it from there.
Mix seemed thicker than I'd have normally used. I think this may not have helped.
I got to the door when it started getting pretty firm so ditched the rest of the mix and did another. Reckon I'd covered 2/3rds by then.

Used 2.5 bags in all.
Did it in 4 mixes and very happy with the result, so I consider it some progress made at least

NickB_99 · 10 Jan 2014

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roy c · 10 Jan 2014

Well done newby good job

stevethespreader · 10 Jan 2014

yes nice job how long did it take u bud?

NickB_99 · 10 Jan 2014

stevethespreader said:
yes nice job how long did it take u bud?

I think it was about 3.5-4 hours.
I'm certainly not the quickest!

deandiy61 · 11 Jan 2014

Thanks newbee, a usefull post you started and I liked the advice from the regulars.

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