Tha old 2 way switching Chestnut

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Been out this morning to replace a broken switch... totally smashed/disintegrated by the new sofa delivery!

It's a 2G 2W with both working 2W for hall and stairs. A wierd selection of colours due to previous alterations - total of 17 wires including 3 neutrals & 4 earths.

After replacing I spent ½hour working out and fixing why one light didn't work. There was no continuity between L1 & L2 strappers of the distant switch [fitted as part of the 10 year old building extention] and any of the wires in the replaced switch but com to com was good [yellow to brown].

Customer assured me the 2 switches work as a pair.

Upstairs being decorated, no carpet and a removable board nearly above the damaged switch revealed 4 junction boxes, L1 & L2 went in a different direction to expected so double checking they were dead I used the cable tracer as far as another switch - a DP 20A switch.

"Oh yes that used to be the hall light until we had the extention built but it doesn't do anything now."
 
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You gotta love the customers “it’s always worked until now and no recent work has been carried out“ as you remove the clearly new-ish ceiling light and find all reds/browns to the L terminal and all blacks/blues to the N terminal. Yeh sure it always worked lol!
 
You gotta love the customers “it’s always worked until now and no recent work has been carried out“ as you remove the clearly new-ish ceiling light and find all reds/browns to the L terminal and all blacks/blues to the N terminal. Yeh sure it always worked lol!
Got a few of those t-Shirts but this was a genuine 'replace a damaged switch' call by the TV advertised sofa company. All of the switches have paint on them.
 
Been out this morning to replace a broken switch... totally smashed/disintegrated by the new sofa delivery!

It's a 2G 2W with both working 2W for hall and stairs. A wierd selection of colours due to previous alterations - total of 17 wires including 3 neutrals & 4 earths.

After replacing I spent ½hour working out and fixing why one light didn't work. There was no continuity between L1 & L2 strappers of the distant switch [fitted as part of the 10 year old building extention] and any of the wires in the replaced switch but com to com was good [yellow to brown].

Customer assured me the 2 switches work as a pair.

Upstairs being decorated, no carpet and a removable board nearly above the damaged switch revealed 4 junction boxes, L1 & L2 went in a different direction to expected so double checking they were dead I used the cable tracer as far as another switch - a DP 20A switch.

"Oh yes that used to be the hall light until we had the extention built but it doesn't do anything now."
So I replaced it with an intermediate and lo and behold they now have 3 way switching in their hall.
 
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Upstairs being decorated, no carpet and a removable board nearly above the damaged switch revealed 4 junction boxes, L1 & L2 went in a different direction to expected so double checking they were dead I used the cable tracer as far as another switch - a DP 20A switch.

What cable tracer did you use and is it any good? (looks like it is?)
 
What cable tracer did you use and is it any good? (looks like it is?)
I've come up through telecom/audio routes so this: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/cable-tracers-fuse-finders/0268357/ is what I have. It's not 'designed' for the electrical environment so have to be very careful to ensure there are no volts on the wiring. Also no shorts as that's part of the test facility to knock off the tone to prove correct pair.
It doesn't work through steel trunking/conduit and not good through foil plaster board.
I've also had good results checking for live cables using just the receiver.
I have 2 and they cost £18.92 in 1994:D got the second from Maplin a bit cheaper.

EDIT: when a friend moved house we couldn't find the immersion heater switch, the tracer sent us on a weird and wonderful route round the house to the cooker switch behind the gas cooker eyelevel grill... that's when I found they don't like volts...
 
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Ex-BT, paid a fiver for them decades ago and they work well, but not to be used around mains voltages.
 
Ex-BT, paid a fiver for them decades ago and they work well, but not to be used around mains voltages.
Ex BT too, yep they work well and yep I found the hard way that switching on the immersion switch... Simple enough repair, 555 timer and a few other components, while I was at it I changed some of the capatitor values so the pips were a lower tone and slower so I could use 2 at a time, very handy when working with stereo audio.
 

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