ICE told to get the eff out

motorbiking · 18 Jan 2026

noseall said:
Nothing she did says otherwise. None on here have shown otherwise. She was just sat in her car.

she wasn't. She decided to flee.

catlad · 18 Jan 2026

noseall said:
So prior to yesterdays' ruling, ICE were lawless and and unrestricted.

I suspect, once Trump is out of power, he will be tried for murder like anyone else.

MNW67 · 18 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
They also post this footage..

I found the commentary unconvincing, but it gives a clearer analysis.

here's one for your google AI
"right to resist unlawful arrest Minnesota"

I posted about that video yesterday. I didn't realise it was on YT, though. Do you still think he was acting in self-defence when he fired that second pair through the side window.

catlad · 18 Jan 2026

Highway Man said:
No court is going to convict him based on his training and experience.

Would you bet your life on that!

Highway Man · 18 Jan 2026

catlad said:
Would you bet your life on that!

Not my life no

Highway Man · 18 Jan 2026

MNW67 said:
I posted about that video yesterday. I didn't realise it was on YT, though. Do you still think he was acting in self-defence when he fired that second pair through the side window.

Irrelevant he had already started shooting,.

Highway Man · 18 Jan 2026

catlad said:
I suspect, once Trump is out of power, he will be tried for murder like anyone else.

I wouldn't call it murder

Ivor Windybottom · 18 Jan 2026

Here's a question... Does anyone think this case is simple or clear-cut?

I don't. It's complex. But she shouldn't have created the situation by driving directly at an armed police officer.

But there's a lot of language by some suggesting it was simple.

Highway Man · 18 Jan 2026

Ivor Windybottom said:
Here's a question... Does anyone think this case is simple or clear-cut?

I don't. It's complex. But she shouldn't have created the situation by driving directly at an armed police officer.

But there's a lot of language by some suggesting it was simple.

There is a lot of ethical questions, regardless to the law she did instigate this herself along with her wife who should face charges. She has admitted herself that she was to blame.

MNW67 · 18 Jan 2026

Ivor Windybottom said:
Here's a question... Does anyone think this case is simple or clear-cut?

I don't. It's complex. But she shouldn't have created the situation by driving directly at an armed police officer.

But there's a lot of language by some suggesting it was simple.

Well, that's one of the issues which isn't clear cut. All the evidence shows that she deliberately turned away from him and didn't actually drive directly at him.

MNW67 · 18 Jan 2026

motorbiking said:
"right to resist unlawful arrest Minnesota"

Surely, the right to resist unlawful arrest by a federal agent is the same in every state.

Anyway, the point was whether she had to comply with unlawful orders.

noseall · 18 Jan 2026

MNW67 said:
Surely, the right to resist unlawful arrest by a federal agent is the same in every state.

There was no justification for a passport checker to arrest her

MNW67 · 18 Jan 2026

One of the pardoned Jan 6th rioters, who assaulted police with a baseball bat, tried to hold a rally in Minnesota, but was drowned out by counter protestors. Trump seems miffed and is readying the regular army to patrol Minnesota. The governor has already mobilised the National Guard to assist local police. This could all go very badly wrong.

Ivor Windybottom · 18 Jan 2026

I doubt that many protestors are actually affected by her death.

They're just anti-Trump, she is just an excuse.

motorbiking · 18 Jan 2026

MNW67 said:
Surely, the right to resist unlawful arrest by a federal agent is the same in every state.

Anyway, the point was whether she had to comply with unlawful orders.

The right to resist an unlawful arrest is different in every state. Didn't you know that?

ICE told to get the eff out

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