ICE told to get the eff out

MNW67 said:

I have to say that you are probably the slipperiest person I have ever had the misfortune to debate with.

You just lie continuously, and then post masses of irrelevant nonsense to try to deflect from your own misunderstanding. We don't need to read an explanation of the entire US tax system.

Remember, you are the person who spent more than a hundred pages arguing over the meaning of the word 'approved' to try to cover up that you had misunderstood the most basic part of the abortion rules in the UK. I think you have a real mental problem.

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motorbiking said:

estimating illegal immigrant contribution by counting all the non-citizen taxes is beyond nonsense.

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motorbiking said:

waffle

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• Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.
• Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.
• More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
• At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).
• Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
• In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.
• Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
• Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities

MNW67 said:

Please show the relevant sections where this is being done. Don't just point at a report and say that it is in there somewhere. Behave like a normal person, and quote the actual sections of the report which you believe show this is happening.

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Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

Who Pays Taxes in America in 2024

America's tax system is just barely progressive, and not nearly as progressive as many suggest or as progressive as it could be. There is plenty of room for lawmakers to improve the progressivity of the tax code to combat economic, wealth, and racial inequality.

itep.org

blup said:

Why is it a surprise that in a country built on migration they can pay tax?

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motorbiking said:

sure here it is again:

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motorbiking said:

sure here it is again:

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motorbiking said:

And still nobody can explain haw someone with no residency or right to work can pay income taxes, buy healthcare, insurance. Etc etc.

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motorbiking said:

Perhaps you can explain how an illegal immigrant with no right to work, pay taxes... can live, pay bills and become a useful member of society?

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motorbiking said:

I’ll wait.

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MNW67 said:

More gibberish

You are doing what you always do. Just pointing at a long report and saying it is in there somewhere.

Such a prat.

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motorbiking said:

personal attacks when you've lost the argument, what a surprise..

do feel free to show how the reference in ref 5 provides evidence of

"In total, the tax contribution of undocumented immigrants amounted to 26.1 percent of their incomes in 2022. This figure is close to the 26.4 percent rate facing the median income group of the overall U.S. population ref [5]"

it doesn't.

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motorbiking said:

Scrutinise your sources or don't get upset when others do.

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MNW67 said:

Waffle, deflection and gibberish.

The usual MBK playbook.

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