Please explain. I have read the full document and it doesn't say that at all.
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Please explain. I have read the full document and it doesn't say that at all.
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follow the source of the claim from the ITIP article.
it points here: https://itep.org/who-pays-taxes-in-america-in-2024/
which talks about something entirely different.
This is why you have to scrutinise the results from AI. Its easy to trick AI.
I have to say that you are probably the slipperiest person I have ever had the misfortune to debate with.
You just lie continuously, and then post masses of irrelevant nonsense to try to deflect from your own misunderstanding. We don't need to read an explanation of the entire US tax system.
Remember, you are the person who spent more than a hundred pages arguing over the meaning of the word 'approved' to try to cover up that you had misunderstood the most basic part of the abortion rules in the UK. I think you have a real mental problem.
Anyway, back to trying to pin you down and stop you from slithering away.
I believe what has happened is that you have failed to understand that there are many different 'withholding' taxes in the USA. The withholding taxes on wages (payroll taxes) are completely different to the ones which you might pay on dividends. There is nothing in any of the documents which mentions at all that they have all been lumped together.
So, can you please show us the relevant section(s) of the report(s) where you believe they have included taxes like the ones you pay in their calculations.
Don’t bother. He’s been shown the proof, the source, the numbers and all written by an unbiased academic.
The bloke is a loon. His willingness to humiliate himself knows no bounds.
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except I didn't. and all the deflective attacks don't change the fact you haven't scrutinised your sources... again.
We are left with the obvious fact that:
1 - no employer is going to on-book illegals and risk hefty fines. Thats without all the reputation damage caused by having poor CSR.
2 - no illegal is going to register and make deportation more likely
3 - any source that references itself, as the source and the reference makes zero reference to the subject is obviously focused on SEO and should be distrusted.
4 - estimating illegal immigrant contribution by counting all the non-citizen taxes is beyond nonsense.
Now I will accept that there is likely to be a number of illegals using stolen records to pay in and be on-book. But discussing how "in theory" illegals can pay income tax doesn't address the obvious issues in point 1 and 2.
Please show the relevant sections where this is being done. Don't just point at a report and say that it is in there somewhere. Behave like a normal person, and quote the actual sections of the report which you believe show this is happening.
- Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.
- Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.
- More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
- At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).
- Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
- In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.
- Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
- Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities
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sure here it is again:
Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.
itep.org
"In total, the tax contribution of undocumented immigrants amounted to 26.1 percent of their incomes in 2022. This figure is close to the 26.4 percent rate facing the median income group of the overall U.S. population ref [5]"
points to this document
Who Pays Taxes in America in 2024
America's tax system is just barely progressive, and not nearly as progressive as many suggest or as progressive as it could be. There is plenty of room for lawmakers to improve the progressivity of the tax code to combat economic, wealth, and racial inequality.
itep.org
No one except loon MBK.
It clearly states an enormous amount of income tax paid by undocumented migrants. Can you not read?
An undocumented immigrant in the U.S. is a person living in the country without valid, current legal immigration status. This includes individuals who entered without inspection
More gibberish
You are doing what you always do. Just pointing at a long report and saying it is in there somewhere.
Such a prat.
Wrong (again).
