I thought it odd that one of the jury members was reported to have wished the defendants well after it all finished
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I think facts are good, in the case of Bowers and Cole, each received a sentence of 13 years with two thirds being spent in prison or 8 years 7 months with the rest on license.
Time on remand is counted as part of the prison sentence so they had 7 years and 6 months left in prison from the day they were sentenced, having served 1 year on remand.
Date of sentence was 31st of July 2020 so their initial release date was December 2027 and from the government it seems that they will be released in march 2027 some 7 months early.
I cannot fathom how we get in the media that they are being released from a 13 year sentence , when they were only going to serve 7 years and 6 months in prison from sentence date.
I think the initial sentence was wrong, but at the time nobody thought it was unduly lenient there were no sentence appeals.
Whilst it sticks in the gut that they seem to be getting off, its by 7 months not five and half years.
In Bristol there are 3 rapists on tags that are doing their sentence at home, time on tag counts the same as time in prison, so I can only imaging what their victims are going through as there are no units to take them.
Is some justice better than none ?
Time on remand is counted as part of the prison sentence so they had 7 years and 6 months left in prison from the day they were sentenced, having served 1 year on remand.
Date of sentence was 31st of July 2020 so their initial release date was December 2027 and from the government it seems that they will be released in march 2027 some 7 months early.
I cannot fathom how we get in the media that they are being released from a 13 year sentence , when they were only going to serve 7 years and 6 months in prison from sentence date.
I think the initial sentence was wrong, but at the time nobody thought it was unduly lenient there were no sentence appeals.
Whilst it sticks in the gut that they seem to be getting off, its by 7 months not five and half years.
In Bristol there are 3 rapists on tags that are doing their sentence at home, time on tag counts the same as time in prison, so I can only imaging what their victims are going through as there are no units to take them.
Is some justice better than none ?
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No reason to let them out 7 months early then. Unless its to enable them to commit more crime, so they can be recalled. Not really a great strategy.
Regarding your 3 rapists, I'd read their sentencing remarks (I haven't) it will help you work out the circumstances.
Sentencing remarks and sentencing is about the length of time they must serve, before being considered for release - i.e. a bit late criticising the sentence once they are up for release. If you agree with the sentence then you agree with the release.
Sentencing remarks don't have any bearing on how they have behaved once they are serving their sentence. Who said they are being let out 'early'?
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It depends on what they are being released into, if its a halfway house or on curfew I cannot see what difference that makes to the category D prison they are either in or due to be in at the 50% mark of their sentence - that's the rehabilitation phase of the prison part of a sentence.
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Utterly irrelevant regards their release date. You have looked at my words but read and responded to a completely different post - again.
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It's entirely relevant if you intent to give them the benefit of an earlier release and want to check if there are people who should be excluded based on their criminal conduct.
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Who says they are being released early?
Such as?
Sounds like you cofused and are thinking about those that have had their sentences increased on appeal?
Yes. They are being released as per the current prison overcrowding scheme. They are not being treaded favourably or otherwise, than any other prisoner in that respect.
Such as?
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The scheme Labour introduced - which releases people even earlier.
Read the sentencing remarks of those convicted (as discussed in this thread) I've already provided a link. Would you release them early? Simple yes or no will do
So they are being released as per the letter of the law. Same as any other scumbag.
Non-answer.
Such as? Give an example.
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do you accept this is a new law created by labour ? yes or no?
hint: Sentencing Act. 2026
I know about the scheme. The two scumbags are being released as per their release date.
what I want you to clarify is this, please....
Can you give an example please?
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Can't believe the law of the land....absolutely disgusting....
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incorrect they are being released as per the accelerated release process, not their release date, which was as per the sentencing remarks.
