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Back in "My Day" many people knew how to fit a plug (not all were good at it though, ranging from not so good to downright bad) but it was a "common thing" to do. We were also taught at shool (with helped those not sure sure haow to do it/to do it properly) so it as ingrained into society. Today...

apologies, I did not make it clear. YesI am aware of those "Disabled Plug" things. But why the heck are so many appliances not fitted with "Standard" plugs we were brought up on? Not just the better makes but the far cheaper ones used to be fitted as standard to any appliance by yourself or at...

Is it me or is it us (Me and SWMBO) or (Quite a few of us)? anyway, the problem:- Modern appliances have to or usually come fitted with a 13A plug (plugtop). Why oh why are so many of them made with less of a curve/notch to readily grab hold off to pull out of the socket, more diificult for...

Plus we have got to try to make with a hope of certainty that approximately that comparison will stay the same for some years to come, hindight is a great tool if we can use it in a crytal bell type fashion, will it stay approx stable or even mostly so it do we have some (almost reliable) info...

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Or make one yerself (Our Save a Shilling Generations ;) ) :giggle::giggle::giggle:

True, but a SELV transformer could operate a 12V relay and run on any cable (almost) but bellwire or BT/Alarm cable best avoided.

a 3 pole fan isolator "fish key" switch ("Grid switch" type) is about £7 inc VAT from Screwfix etc,

Yes the objective is to deter/reduce chance and give a greater chance of visual alert rather than prevent - a perceived possible success rate of around 90% or so is better than nothing at all. Now and again someone might remark - I want my electrics to be "idiot proof", my first thought would...

Agreed - I was alluding to the chance it could be OKish or a complete dogs breakfast but who knows?

You have obviously given it some sensible thought before just ploughing on regardless. Good news there is no such regulation to prevent it but I am sure you will be sensible enough to 1/ take steps to reduce the risks of the frequency and extent of condensation and splashes just like you should...

Would it be any use for me to suggest that you (or a friend in the know how to do safely) put a mains relay/contactor on it and have it operated via a Extra Low Voltage wire and switch arrangement with a length(s) of cable and switches to suit your requirements therefore a voltage such as 12...

How many more are likewise? I can imagine a whole housing estate being done and all it takes is one contractor to say "Well each pair has a 50/50 chance of being right or wrong and I am only one of X contractors! so hey ho. :giggle:

I see that Eric and a few others have some contingencies which is not a bad thing, in the older days people kept a few spare candles and a "night light" candle or two - night light candles were for the outside loo to stop the water pipe from freezing up in those ice cold winters, if you were...

Did see them (or similar) about at our friends and our older relatives, were very popular indeed

Yes to all really, it could have been done a few ways to get what we are seeing and what the OP tells us. It really needs sufficient testing of the what ifs and whys to get a realistic understanding of what was done then what might have changed, if anything, too see how its ended up as what we...

If it can be done safely then yes. Yes does suggest that or alternatively it might be going out of production and they just want the clear the shelves, having a look at the spec and seeing what price and for how long its been running might assist in giving a clue.

I am not familiar with that particular model but I have fitted a few Tritons and a lot of them are "much of a muchness" . £40 is cheap at a quick glance of between £50 and £85 and if the thermal cut out is £15 and this particular part is fairly easy to fit the 40 to 15 is no contest to me (I...

Just bear in mind that with an Electric shower (and a lot of appliances too) it costs proportionally more to buy individual parts than to but the whole appliance itself and then the cost/trouble of replacing them. Not so much with a thermal cut out I know but with heating elements etc it is...

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