Constant trickle fans -Fan isolators or fused spur?

[bilabonic]

Hi all

Cracking on with rewire on one of my properties and done x2 rings and ripped out all the old wiring etc.

Looking to fit x2 constant trickle fans.
One in bathroom and one in kitchen.

The kitchen one was fed from a switched fused spur (4" hole already there).

The bathroom one upstairs would benefit from a ceiling fan/ducting/vent tile tbh.

I like to fit Envirovent constant trickle fans with humidity sensor and boost function.

I also don't want them turned off 'to save electric/jeep bathroom/kitchen warm'.

Can I just use a non switched fused spur without as means of isolation?

Cheers

 

[EFLImpudence]

Can I just use a non switched fused spur without as means of isolation?

You can - but do you not think tenants capable of removing the fuse?


The cable is the spur - fused or otherwise.

 

[ebee]

The cable is the spur - fused or otherwise.

Well said that man

PS - as to the OP , a fan isolator is just for that - isolating for maintenance etc and not as a functional switch (if needed).

 

[bilabonic]

I don't think they will bother to remove a fuse tbh.
The Envirovent fans are silent on when on constantly/trickle.
They will only be aware of them when boost is activated.

The reason is I have had this before with fan isolators being fitted and mould/no air flow in bathrooms and found fan isolators switched off.

Also is there an option to do this via the ceiling/inline fan with constant trickle/humidity boost?

Cheers

 

[ebee]

One reason I put the fan isolator up near the ceiling, if someone really needs to get it switched they can, with a stick, if need be but not low enough to encourage a habit of switching on and off and possibly forgetting.

 

[JohnW2]

Can I just use a non switched fused spur without as means of isolation?

As has been said, the short answer is 'yes'.

 

[bilabonic]

One reason I put the fan isolator up near the ceiling, if someone really needs to get it switched they can, with a stick, if need be but not low enough to encourage a habit of switching on and off and possibly forgetting.

One of my other properties has them fitted above the doorway/entrance to bathroom and kitchen.
Tenant keeps turning them off as she reckons it makes the rooms cold.
Starting to get black mould in areas now and have never had problems before.

Cheers

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Tenant keeps turning them off as she reckons it makes the rooms cold.

Mount them out of reach, and maybe add a - destroy by removing, signed seal across the switch.

 

[ebee]

One of my other properties has them fitted above the doorway/entrance to bathroom and kitchen.

Not the best place really! - The worst place is the height of the normal functional switch, I`ve seen plenty of those.

 

[bilabonic]

Mount them out of reach, and maybe add a - destroy by removing, signed seal across the switch.

What is that type of seal?

Plus where could I mount them out of reach??

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

What is that type of seal?

Plus where could I mount them out of reach??

The seal, need be nothing more complex than sticky back paper, with your signature upon it. So long as it rips easily, with any attempt to remove it.

Out of reach - up at the ceiling, in a cupboard, use imagination.

 

[JohnW2]

The seal, need be nothing more complex than sticky back paper, with your signature upon it. So long as it rips easily, with any attempt to remove it.

Very sticky (not 'low tack' / 'easy peel') masking tape works well, since it's almost impossible to get it off without tearing or, at least, creating obvious damage.

 

[ebee]

Yes the objective is to deter/reduce chance and give a greater chance of visual alert rather than prevent - a perceived possible success rate of around 90% or so is better than nothing at all.

Now and again someone might remark - I want my electrics to be "idiot proof", my first thought would be " I do not really want an idiot to be using electrics"