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    Thoughts on tidying up a garden wiring box

    Wow, that really is spaghetti junction!!!! I agree that my garden wiring box isn't that bad and chances are I will forget about it in a couple of weeks when other projects take priority, like changing some radiators in the house before the cold weather hits and repointing a valley on a low...
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    Thoughts on tidying up a garden wiring box

    Sorry ericmark, but I think I must be missing the point of your post as I don't really understand the relevance of the document you have provided. This is not a new installation, or an installation in an outbuilding or garage. I'm simply suggesting that the method of earthing the SWA...
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    Thoughts on tidying up a garden wiring box

    Around 9 years ago as part of a garden makeover, an electrician installed a number of SWA cables and light fittings and connected them up in a large plastic "junction" box in the garden. Here's a "clean" photo showing the full interior of the box, however, as this is a little old, it doesn't...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    I only came across the IP68 plastic gland kits the other day and wish I had seen them earlier as I would have definitely used them over the brass gland kits, but to switch now would be a lot of work and expense and as long as the junction boxes are high enough off the floor moisture tends not to...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    Have you used these? The fixings are integral to the box so simply require a flat head screwdriver to turn and release. Never had an issue with tightness. I've had plenty of rusty screws and there's always the issue of the screw dropping when being removed. When I started having the recent...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    I agree. Originally I used banjo earth rings in the small above ground junction boxes and as you say, I bent them slightly. I had also used terminal blocks. As part of my checking and testing due to the latest RCD issue, I replaced all the banjo earth rings with piranha earthing nuts and the...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    I've been unable to determine if a particular circuit is causing the issue. It's difficult to test since every time the RCD trips, it affects a number of circuits in the house and given that we work from home, I can't do this during the day. I've essentially removed all lighting and the pump...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    The following junction boxes contain SWA wires that are black, brown and grey: J1, J2, J3. These are all on C1. I have already provided photos of these. The pump (C All the original underground connections were moved above ground into junctions boxes J1, J2, J4, J6, J7 and J8. Junction...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    SUNRAY, thank you for getting into the detail of my garden electrics configuration. I agree, the circuit diagram has one more circuit than the photos are showing and I've now realised this is because the photos are a few years old and don't include the outdoor socket that was added in 2021...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    Not true in my case. As a diyer, I am well aware that a number of MCB's are connected to the same RCD and I'm fairly sure I have stated that when lights or devices on any of the MCB's connected to the same RCD as the garden circuit, are turned on, this has caused a trip. Prime example is the...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    Yes, I agree I am at this point. I'm not experienced enough to further trouble shoot this issue myself and even if I was, I prefer the idea of the earth leakage clamp meter since it is "non invasive" and so much easier (and quicker) to use, as far as I can tell. As much as I would like to...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    I will open up all the junction boxes and double check, but I'm pretty sure the SWA that has grey, black and brown are the only ones in the garden as they are "extensions" of the original C1 circuit and were added when the underground junction boxes were moved above ground. Based on the photos...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    I can confirm the two lots of loose wires in J3 are from the two light fittings and they aren't currently connected up to the circuit (C1).
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    Does it matter which wire is used for earth as long as it is consistent? Obviously, brown and black are the normal colours for live and neutral, so it makes more sense for grey to be used as earth. From memory, the SWA with a grey earth wire is only used on circuit C1 to connect junction boxes...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    It doesn't always trip instantly, sometimes it takes a while, sometimes turning on something else in the house e.g. the garage lights, causes the trip. The randomness of the tripping seems to indicate it is an earth leakage issue.
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    I don't believe it is a wiring issue, since the garden lights do not always trip instantly they are turned on. I've also been unable to identify any particular one of the 6 garden circuits (1 MCB in the junction box, but 6 separate cables from the garden wiring box) as being an issue, since...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    Thanks for that helpful information. I did read about the resistance tester, but putting 500V through the house wiring is not something I would want to do as I'm almost sure I will damage something and then I'm in a worse situation! I did wonder if an earth leakage clamp would help identify if...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    It definitely doesn't help, but I haven't changed anything in the wiring box apart from disconnecting and reconnecting the various circuits during testing, and I've checked all the wires to ensure neutral, live and earth are only connected to each other. I confess, I would much rather use...
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    RCD tripping issue (again) - Earth Leakage?

    I did consider purchasing the following from Toolstation: Earth Leakage Clampmeter Which would allow me to measure the earth leakage from all the circuits in the consumer unit and also each of the garden circuits connected to the garden wiring box. While useful information, I'm not really...
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