3 armed light earth

[john cushnie]

I was checking this 3 armed light fitting my wife bought, it appears each taped joint has 3 wires from the lamp holders and a wire to the power, the left hand one has an extra thicker wire which I don't understand, Would it be better cutting this wire and attaching to the metal to form an earth?
The car boot seller said it originated from France.
Thanks

 

[EFLImpudence]

Can't actually see in the picture where the black wire goes. Does it go 'up the tube' with the two brown wires?

If so, what is at the other end? Just the three loose wires?

 

[john cushnie]

Yes, sorry yes it does, so at the top end there is a double wire and that thicker black one, so I'm not sure if the black should be treated as an earth

 

[EFLImpudence]

Well, presumably the light being metal should have an earth so the answer is yes.

However, a green and yellow wire should really be used.


I can't see a reason why the black wire would be connected to the browns.

 

[john cushnie]

Well, presumably the light being metal should have an earth so the answer is yes.

However, a green and yellow wire should really be used.


I can't see a reason why the black wire would be connected to the browns.

Maybe in line with French regulations

 

[bernardgreen]

In France the strappers between switches are normally black which may be the reason for a Black to be connected to the lamps.

Best advice is to rewire the lamps with UK colour cables.

 

[winston1]

In France the strappers between switches are normally black

I don’t know about the Stone Age but these day French strappers are violet and orange.

 

[bernardgreen]

Les anciennes couleurs de câblage

Conducteur	Nouvelle couleur	Ancienne couleur
Phase	Marron ou Rouge	Vert
Neutre	Bleu	Rouge
Terre	Jaune / Vert	Gris ou blanc
Navette de phase entre interrupteurs	Noir	Noir

 

[SUNRAY]

Les anciennes couleurs de câblage

Conducteur	Nouvelle couleur	Ancienne couleur
Phase	Marron ou Rouge	Vert
Neutre	Bleu	Rouge
Terre	Jaune / Vert	Gris ou blanc
Navette de phase entre interrupteurs	Noir	Noir

I have to agree that in my limited experience of working in France; strappers and switched line are normally purple or orange

 

[FrodoOne]

Est-il vrai que l'ancienne couleur de câblage de phase en France était verte.

Quelle horreur !

 

[bernardgreen]

In Deutschland in den alten Zeit war der Erdleitung mit Roten draht verdrahtig

 

[SUNRAY]

Est-il vrai que l'ancienne couleur de câblage de phase en France était verte.

Quelle horreur !

Why so alarmed?
Green was a phase colour in good old blighty

 

[SUNRAY]

In Deutschland in den alten Zeit war der Erdleitung mit Roten draht verdrahtig

Bis zur Harmonisierung war es auch in weiten Teilen Europas üblich

In the Madeira hotel I was a little surprised to see their round T&E brown/blue with red sleeved earth.

 

[FrodoOne]

Why so alarmed?
Green was a phase colour in good old blighty

Bis zur Harmonisierung war es auch in weiten Teilen Europas üblich

In the Madeira hotel I was a little surprised to see their round T&E brown/blue with red sleeved earth.

The information contained in these "responses" is not widely "known" - in other countries.
It would be a "good idea" if this "information" were to be posted more widely.

While the "Encyclopedia Britannica" may have had its day, "Wikipedia" exists and can be added to and edited by anyone.
These "edits" are subject to "peer review" and can then be edited, by others.

The most relevant Wikipedia page relating to this matter seems to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_wiring

Therefore, I invite any and all of you who read this to comment and amend the historical "information" contained within this "source", or any other relevant "source".

 

[SUNRAY]

Lest we forget.