3 gang 2 way light switch

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Located downstairs.Theres one live wire and 1 neutral wire, i have wired the live into the common and then used jumpers to the other commons (3 in total), the upstairss switch is what contains the neutreal, there are 7 wires in total ( 1 neutral and 6 red...)

basically all 3 lights work that normally should with the switches but when i turn the porch light on all the bedroom lights turn off and the kitchen light fails to work atall anymore.
Also i think the upstairs porch circuit is powered by itself and that it only acts as slave on the switch in question

im really confused at what to do next please help

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the upstairs porch light seems to self powered on and on its own circuit and the switch is merely a slave
 
Located downstairs.Theres one live wire and 1 neutral wire,
Sure?

Did you install it?

If not, what was there before you started messing with it?


i have wired the live into the common and then used jumpers to the other commons (3 in total),
Why?


the upstairss switch is what contains the neutreal,
I thought you said there was a neutral at the downstairs switch?

You aren't making the daft mistake of thinking that a black wire must be neutral, are you?


there are 7 wires in total ( 1 neutral and 6 red...)
Are they all single core cables?

No earths?

What sort of switch is it?


basically all 3 lights work that normally should with the switches but when i turn the porch light on all the bedroom lights turn off and the kitchen light fails to work atall anymore.
Has it always been like this?

Or did it start doing that after you fiddled with something?


Also i think the upstairs porch circuit is powered by itself and that it only acts as slave on the switch in question
also the upstairs porch light seems to self powered on and on its own circuit and the switc
I have no idea what that means.


im really confused at what to do next please help
Firstly, an idea of what changes you tried to make and why would be useful.

And before you pick up a screwdriver ever again, please learn how lighting circuits work.

http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting

You must have realised that you didn't know - why did you think that ignorance should not be a reason to leave it alone until you did know?
 
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So you think that you could have a neutral and a live going to a switch and nothing bad would happen?

Please call an electrician.

there no earths in the circuit and its a 3 gang 2 way light, its a black wire on the porch circuit but the lightswitch on the porch has its own primary lightswitch on landing. the one downstairs (the one in question) is only for turning it on and off from downstairs

and know it hasnt always been like this but the new switch is uposide down comapred to the toher wrong and thats where things got confusing
 
there no earths in the circuit
I hope there are no metal switches or Class I light fittings either.


when i turn the porch light on all the bedroom lights turn off and the kitchen light fails to work atall anymore.
Did that happen because you know what you're doing?


Also i think the upstairs porch circuit is powered by itself and that it only acts as slave on the switch in question
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the upstairs porch light seems to self powered on and on its own circuit and the switch is merely a slave
its a black wire on the porch circuit but the lightswitch on the porch has its own primary lightswitch on landing. the one downstairs (the one in question) is only for turning it on and off from downstairs
Please call an electrician.


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So you think that you could have a neutral and a live going to a switch and nothing bad would happen?

Please call an electrician.
 
i dont have any cash, if i knew what i was doing i wouldnt be posting here would i
 
Probably not, but the way your going you wont be for much longer. You will either kill yourself or burn your home down.
 
You cannot and must not use a brass switch unless it is earthed. You do not have an earth conductor. The wiring issue cannot be sorted on an Internet forum.
Get an electrician.
Next patient, please.
 
there no earths in the circuit
the switch is brass
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You must not have metal switches if there is no earth.

Please turn off all the power, replace the metal switch with a plastic one, and CALL AN ELECTRICIAN!




 
You're welcome.

if you dont mind my asking why isnt there a earth anyway? we really wanted the brass but if theres a risk of electric shock we'll pass.

With respect, you are there, we aren't. Old installations did not have earths in the lighting circuits. Newer, bad, installations have an earth conductor but it's not connected or cut off.
Your electrician can tell, at a glance, what you have or havent got.
 

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