3 way valve - missing rubber ball

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Has anyone experienced the rubber stopper break up and go awol down the pipes from a 3 way valve. Got this issue and unsure as to how to go about getting someone to look at fixing it. Heating works but rarely heats up as quick as it should and I'm sure the blockage is causing the problem.
Is it possible to vacuum the pipework once drained?
Thank you for any suggestions or even anyone willing to do the work. Telford, Shropshire.
 

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When it was last replaced a few years ago there was no rubber ball on the valve. Disney think anything of it at the time but over the years it's always been either working well or takes an age to warm up the radiators, often having to shut some radiators down... Which I thought means it's dislodging the boys of rubber around the pipes. System has been flushed a number of times and had plenty of x800 and inhibitors to assure me that it's not general crud that's the problem. I'm just wanting to find out if anyone can use a vacuum or similar to pull out potential culprit.
 
Nope, not sure... Which doesn't sort of make any sense but happy to take the input from the experts... Was trying to find out if it was something others had experienced too... And hoping it was as then it would explain my symptoms on inconsistent heat up times
 
I've had the ball break off the end of its actuator and give the problems you described (of poor flow). Mine was discovered whilst powerflushing, but the rubber ball did not break-up, it was contained within the brass 3-port valve housing, and was easily discovered and removed/repaired on inspection.

If you're convinced that bits of it have broken away and are in the heating pipes then it's most likely these bits will be caught at narrowings of the pipe...radiator valves, pipe reducers, boiler waterways come to mind. To home in on which you must carefully think about the effect of such a (partial?) blockage.
Is it always the same radiator that stops working? Remove its incoming valve and flush several litres from the incoming pipe into a bucket, via an old stocking if you want to filter out the bits. Inspect and clean the valve before replacing it. Re-appraise and move on to the next worse case.
If the boiler goes into low flame too early, or short cycles, then you may have to reverse flush the boiler to drive out any particles.
Inspect the pump, they too have narrowing channels where solid particles can lodge.

Careful and methodical thinking can save a lot of unrewarding work. Ask yourself 'if it were blocked here what would be the symptoms?'. 'What couldn't it be, and why not?'. Attend to the most likely culprit first, working down to the less likely.
 
Honeywell v4073a
Gravity feed vented system with vitodens 100 boiler.
It was shortly after we moved into the house that the incident happened when the motorised head was replaced asking with the valve. It's been something I've lived with as the system works but albeit sometimes can take ages, short cycle as mentioned. Not a professional myself so think it's about time I called someone in to deal with it once and for all...
 
Honeywell v4073a
Gravity feed vented system with vitodens 100 boiler.
It was shortly after we moved into the house that the incident happened when the motorised head was replaced asking with the valve. It's been something I've lived with as the system works but albeit sometimes can take ages, short cycle as mentioned. Not a professional myself so think it's about time I called someone in to deal with it once and for all...
Then it might be a quick fix; the ball may still be rattling around inside the housing....new ball assemblies are available for £20 or so from BES.

PS If the ball has dropped off you will get heat to some rads even with just the hot water ON.
 
Thank you for the input and advice. I'll try and look up someonw that can investigate further.
 
When it was last replaced a few years ago there was no rubber ball on the valve.
Don't understand that. If it's a Honeywell v4073a, and as your pic, it has a ball. Do you mean the failed valve had no ball?
I had a problem with mine many years ago. The pin through the ball was threaded into the lever and came adrift. The pin fell into the pump (directly below) and jammed it, so boiler out on low flow. The ball stayed in the body. I rivetted the pin end over and it's worked OK ever since.
The 2 outlet ports are obvsly smaller than the ball, but from your pic maybe the inlet port is bigger. I don't think it is on mine but maybe the design has changed.
 
Tbh, my thoughts were that the ball had split into 2 or more and gone down the 22mm bore possibly lodging at the 15mm reducers. But if it never had a ball ( seemed unlikely to me) then I am baffled. Think the flush is my only way forward, so will look to get it done now winter is over.
Think the circuit is 15mm with 10mm supplies to the radiators, so it could be the bits are being pushed around and when they get lodged it needs a changes in flow from the pump or change in demand ( by closing some rads) to move the obstruction. I've asked checkatrade to get me some quotes, fingers crossed I get a good plumber.
 

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