A good news story

[sooey]

The context I was referring to was the heightened sensitivity to suicide bombers at the time.

 

[Workers]

By an amazing coincidence, all the CCTV cameras, that the LT Underground is littered with, happened to be out of order that morning.

Not quite true though is it,

Initial UK media reports suggested that no CCTV footage was available from the Stockwell station, as recording media had not been replaced after being removed for examination after the previous day's attempted bombings. Other reports stated that faulty cameras on the platform were the reason for the lack of video evidence. An anonymous source confirmed that CCTV footage WAS available for the ticket area, but that there was a problem with the platform coverage. The source suggested that there was no useful CCTV footage from the platform or the train carriage.[103]

Extracts from a later police report stated that examination of the platform cameras had produced no footage. It said: "It has been established that there has been a technical problem with the CCTV equipment on the relevant platform and no footage exists." It also reported there was no footage from CCTV in the carriage where Menezes was shot, saying "Although there was on-board CCTV in the train, due to previous incidents, the hard drive had been removed and not replaced."

The platform CCTV system is maintained by the Tube Lines consortium in charge of maintaining the Northern Line; unofficial sources from inside the company insisted that the cameras were in working order. It was also reported that London Underground sources insisted that at least three of the four cameras trained on the Stockwell Tube platform were in full working order, and rejected suggestions that the cameras had not been fitted with new tapes after police took away footage from the previous day, 21 July, when suspects in the failed bombings caught trains there

Also in July 2005 there were Hard Drives in use. Not tapes. Although not at every location. But certainly in the carriages.

 

[Whitespirit66]

they manage to shoot innocent Brazilian electricians when they consider it appropriate.

Wasn't he an illegal immigrant?

Still, nice to see some proper bird handed out for a change. Can't remember the last time someone received 30 or more years - even for murder. Even if they do 20 years, still a decent stretch.

No he wasn't.

OK. Maybe illegal was wrong. But he was an immigrant.

Zero tolerance!

 

[LastMagicBean]

Very good
Although he was illegal anyway.

"The Home Office said Mr Menezes had been granted entry to the UK for six months as a visitor on his arrival on 13 March 2002.

He then applied for leave to remain as a student, which was approved. He was granted leave to remain until 30 June 2003.

The Home Office says his visa expired at that time and that he remained illegally in the UK until his death."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5173032.stm

 

[JohnD]

police report stated that examination of the platform cameras had produced no footage....It also reported there was no footage from CCTV in the carriage

sources from inside (london Transport) insisted that the cameras were in working order. It was also reported that London Underground sources insisted that at least three of the four cameras trained on the Stockwell Tube platform were in full working order

Maybe one of them was telling the truth...

 

[peaps2]

Can't remember the last time someone received 30 or more years

The great train robbery perhaps?

"You get thirty years for robbing a train. You get ten for murder now that's insane." (Labbi Siffre)

So even then, it seemed that our political lords and masters cared more about their money than they did about the safety of their citizens. Come to think of it, ten years for murder was quite a lot. I can remember some ridiculously short sentences being handed out back in the seventies; like six months each for the two young thugs who tortured their grandmother to death to get her pension money.

A different thread on here is headed "Just plain wickedness seems to be increasing." No, it's always been there.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...d-to-minimum-30-year-prison-term-6984001.html

20/30 years is regularly given out these days.

I think these sentences are far too high.

 

[subman101]

20/30 years is regularly given out these days.
I think these sentences are far too high.

What would you give?

 

[enyam]

20/30 years is regularly given out these days.
I think these sentences are far too high.

What would you give?

His freedom again because the sentences are too lenient.

 

[peaps2]

20/30 years is regularly given out these days.
I think these sentences are far too high.

What would you give?

Sentences need to fit the crime or you will get trouble down the line. It's not so much the sentence in this case it's the fact you can get less for murder and other serious crimes.

What's to stop these gangs from now thinking you can get less if you kill someone?

 

[ellal]

Very good
Although he was illegal anyway.

"The Home Office said Mr Menezes had been granted entry to the UK for six months as a visitor on his arrival on 13 March 2002.

He then applied for leave to remain as a student, which was approved. He was granted leave to remain until 30 June 2003.

The Home Office says his visa expired at that time and that he remained illegally in the UK until his death."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5173032.stm

This is getting tiresome...

Here we have yet another numpty who swallows the propaganda and ignores the facts regarding the Common Travel Area in force at the time...

 

[Whitespirit66]

Can't remember the last time someone received 30 or more years

The great train robbery perhaps?

Yes, perhaps I should have qualified my statement by adding the words 'in recent years'. Sentences these days are often pathetic, but now and again a judge gets serious.

The biggest con of all was abolishing capital punishing. and calling the sentence tariff that replaced it 'life'. Sickest joke of them all.

 

[Workers]

sources from inside (london Transport) insisted that the cameras were in working order. It was also reported that London Underground sources insisted that at least three of the four cameras trained on the Stockwell Tube platform were in full working order

Maybe one of them was telling the truth...

Yes, as was mentioned in my quoted article. But if there are no tapes or hard drives inserted you will get no footage. But the station workers would see "video" in real time.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Very good
Although he was illegal anyway.

"The Home Office said Mr Menezes had been granted entry to the UK for six months as a visitor on his arrival on 13 March 2002.

He then applied for leave to remain as a student, which was approved. He was granted leave to remain until 30 June 2003.

The Home Office says his visa expired at that time and that he remained illegally in the UK until his death."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5173032.stm

So definitely illegal. Wasn't he working here as well?

Also, I think when Cressida Dick (Acting Deputy Commisioner of The Met) said that she had got a Brazilian - people misunderstood what she had said.

 

[JohnD]

... cameras trained on the Stockwell Tube platform were in full working order, and rejected suggestions that the cameras had not been fitted with new tapes after police took away footage from the previous day, 21 July,

The false stories fed to the media by the police about the dead man "jumping over barriers" "running away when challenged" "being chased by police" "wearing a suspicious rucksac" "wearing a suspicious bulky jacket" all turned out to be lies.

The police story about all the video recorders not working is just as reliable.

 

[Workers]

Well as cameras are not fitted with tapes it makes you think the unofficial sources were not correct. A reason that quote was left in full. To prove that this can be discussed all week long and we will not even see the truth when they open records to the public.