Accenta G4 Mini

[morg]

Hi there,

Recently installed the above alarm in my workshop.
Happy with the install and function, however I've come across a very minor issue.

The first zone is a roller shutter door with just a roller shutter door magnetic contact on the floor/shutter, this is the only entry/exit point and its set to 30 sec timed entry/exit.

The issue is that the alarm will not initially set if the roller shutter door is open, (Setting fault: Front door, obviously because the contacts are open).... It seems under normal conditions the alarm panel expects all the contacts closed to be set... I guess to warn you of fault reasons.

I am able to override the setting fault by inputting pin code 2-3 times to set alarm, leave premises, close shutter door (its a remote shutter door)... Alarm works great... Just annoying to input code/pin 2/3 times.

There is the option of extending the exit time and by closing shutter before setting alarm, but I was hoping to find a way of setting the alarm with a contact initially open?

Not a big deal I know, maybe there is a setting for my scenario or should I just put a magnet over floor contact when setting alarm Or maybe there are switches available for this?

Thanks for any advice

 

[Handymanjo]

Post photo of door contact fitted to door

 

[morg]

Cheers

 

[sparkymarka]

LOL .thats going to false alarm.....the floor part needs to be under the magnet .......that’s not a grade 3 roller shutter by any chance ?

 

[morg]

Not had any false alarms.... Yet.... Checked connections with multimeter continuity and resistance plus physical alarm tests. The contact works fine and breaks connection where I wanted it to.

The problem was if I put the contacts closer together (as you LOL suggest), that allowed for more gap in the shutter i.e. the contacts didn't break connection until the shutter raised about 2-3 inches... Surely you don't want that?!

By making them further apart I managed to get the contact to break when shutter raised up just under a inch...

Am I right or wrong?

(its grade 2 I believe)

 

[sparkymarka]

So when the magnet gets weaker over the years ....who going to slide in at 3-4 inches ?

 

[secureiam]

Unfortunately wrong.

 

[morg]

So when the magnet gets weaker over the years ....who going to slide in at 3-4 inches ?

But can you trick the contact/alarm panel by putting a magnet over it and then raising the shutter? =no alarm???

thanks

 

[sparkymarka]

On the entry exit zone ....so what happens when the detector picks up not seeing the entry contact then?

 

[sparkymarka]

If you say that there isn’t one then that’s bad design.....

 

[JohnD]

But can you trick the contact/alarm panel by putting a magnet over it and then raising the shutter? =no alarm???

thanks

my roller sensor is on the inside of the garage. Isn't that the way to do it?

 

[morg]

...

 

[secureiam]

ask Punch?

 

[morg]

On the entry exit zone ....so what happens when the detector picks up not seeing the entry contact then?

I would say that the alarm will not set if any of the contacts was open after the 30 secs exit time, but during the 30 set-time it allows it (only by overriding code 2-3 times).

Good point though, I will have to test the above conditions tomorrow.
I know I can set alarm with a contact open and then close it during set time, but how do I know the contact is working after the set time - I guess that is the point your making.

Cheers

 

[sparkymarka]

Point is ..that’s only starts the entry timer ...eg detector inside the building activates instant if it picks up before the entry timer is started ..