Advice on building a wetroom

[Bucks]

I am building a wet room in a garage conversion that I have just done.
I am planning on using this supplier www.tilefixdirect.com/wet-room-builder.html
Does anyone have any feedback/recommendations on this company & the products recommended in there wet room quoter.
Any other recommendations/advice would be much appreciated.

sorry but I dont think the website link is going to work

 

[martyheat]

HI
HAVE DONE MANY WET ROOMS

NO 1 CHECK WERE AND HEIGHT OF DRAIN YOU ARE CONNECTING TO
SPEND TIME IN GETTING CORRECT WASTE TRAP AND SETTING
IN SCREED CORRECTLY, AND WERE TO POSITION TRAP IS VARY
IMPORTANT

NO 2 TILES ON FLOOR ARE NOT THE BEST WAY AS CAN LEAK OR BE
DAMAGED GET IN PRO, TO LAY WET FLOOR COVERING IT STOPS
ALL THE PROBLEMS WHICH YOU GET WITH TILED FLOORS.

HAVE A GOOD ONE

 

[tictic]

few questions

what type of subsrate is the floor.
what " " walls.
what type of former.
what " " tiles or are you going for saftey flooring..i.e. altro etc.
what tanking system are you using.

 

[davey5678]

I did my own wet rooms with tiles and Im not an expert but the job was achievable but quite hard.

I had an easy drain to go into though I had to get the trap and drain from a specialist (plumbing shop). I went to a large tiling company who did plastic integrated wet room floors which you are supposed to tile on top of. They supply the incline and the drain I believe all you have to do is set it properly on the floor and tile. Thats what that company does.

However when I did the costings I found I could do it much cheaper myself. They are only really packaging several products together you can get elsewhere at an inflated price.

The problem i ended up having was I had a wooden floor. First off it needed a base of good marine ply, then a covering of thick waterproof membrane on the walls and on the floor and then copious amounts of flexible tile adhesive to create an incline. The trouble is the tile adhesive needs to be quick set - otherwise it don't set as any adhesive of more than a cm or so thinks it is still in the pot especially when its put on top of a waterproof membrane. I think on reflection I should have done the include with concrete and then tiled on top of that - but getting the incline just right so the water drains away is difficult and needs a bit of trial and error.

When I had finished I did a reasonable incline but then heavy showring (by a 7 year old pointing the shower the wrong way) lead to leaks outside of the area. I ended up inserting thin metal strips around the edge to prevent this is the tile grooves and that worked quite well.

When I was recently in Morroco I was fascinated with this very natural looking waterproof plaster they use on everything in the bathrooms and around pools. maybe this might be a better option Im not sure.

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David Gadd
http://www.barstoolfool.co.uk

 

[Bon]

As Martyheat says, spending the time getting the floor substrate correct is vital.

Everything needs to run towards where the waste will be installed. You might want to look at some of the linear drains that are available now. using one of these will make geting the falls set correctly much easier and you don't need any diagonal custs if you tile the floor.

When I did my walk-in shower I used WBP marine ply and timber battens to create the falls to the former. If you do this make sure you use LOADS of screws to keep the floor as rigid as possible (it will still flex, just not as much). Also make sure you test your waste pipe/gulley at this point as this will be the last chance you have!!

When you're happy with that use a decent tanking compund to cover the floor and walls that will be exposed to water (I used the BAL WP1 kit). If I was doing mine again I'd tank the walls and tile them before tanking the floor as I was really paranoid about damaging the tanking when tiling the walls.

You're then free to choose your floor covering. At the end of the day you're pretty lucky in that it's a former garage so it's not like you've got a whole kitchen ceiling to ruin should the worst happen!!!!

Marty, what's your floor covering of choice if you're not a fan of tiles??

 

[Bucks]

Thanks guys for your replies,

A bit more info, the wet room floor is a concrete slab set approx 7" below the surrounding floors, I am planning on putting pressure treated floor joists in with a plywood floor on top, this way I have the space between the joists to run waste pipes etc.

Three walls are timber stud-work, the other a concrete block wall.

We are planning on putting in underfloor heating & tiling walls & floor with either marble or travertine, I am thinking of 2" mosaic tumbled travertine on the floor, my thinking is this will hopefully be pretty much a non slip surface & easier to shape the floor with mosaic's for the falls.

Looking at the Tilefix website, they do the Marmox shower trays & Marmox tile backer boards, which you dont have to tank as the boards are completely waterproof, you seal all joints with silicone sealer then tape them with a special waterproof tape.

Any further comments or advice would be much apreciated, especialy om these Marmox boards.

 

[Bon]

Those boards look pretty good actually. Yet another product I wish I'd discovered when I did my shower!!

I'd probably over-kill it and tank the joints just to be on the safe side.