Advice on opening push-button cistern lid

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Hello,

I have a Grohedal branded, single push-button flush toilet that I inherited on buying a new house. It has now developed a leaking problem on flushing such that on each flush, water spurts out from one side of the cistern where the lid is attached.

So, I naturally tried to take the lid off to have a look inside - and that's where I'm stuck. The lid is attached to the cistern somehow and I can't see how to release it.

The push-button collar rotates a little but does not seem to unscrew. Inside the push-button holder there are no screws or catches or anything that makes it obvious how to release the lid.

Pictures:
http://www.manwomanandmyth.com/images/wide.jpg
http://www.manwomanandmyth.com/images/Button_on.JPG
http://www.manwomanandmyth.com/images/open_1.JPG
http://www.manwomanandmyth.com/images/open_2.JPG
http://www.manwomanandmyth.com/images/open_3.JPG

Any advice much appreciated as Google returns not-a-lot on Grohedal!

Cal.
 
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Can you not remove the button by flicking up and then you can see the screw underneath? :D
 
grip the outer chrome effect plastic part and turn anticlockwise to unscrew it from the drop valve.

When you get in there, there may be a windsock looking thing on the small float valve or torbeck valve depending what it's fitted with, which might have split.
 
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Thanks Paul for the unscrewing technique!

Now onto the next problem. The leak is from the top of the assembly pictured here - http://www.manwomanandmyth.com/images/spray.jpg

Do I need to cut water off before proceeding?

As the leak is coming from the underside of what looks like a screw cap, would you recommend an attempt to screw it tight or is this kind of leak telling me to replace something?

Thanks again,
Cal.
 
I'm not sure about the structure involved, it might survive fiddling with but it is as likely to have developed a fracture it's made of plastic. The plastic nuts of float valves and washing machine hoses are prone to crack and fail often a year or two after they were overtightened with a tool.

I would have a go but be ready with a replacement.

Yes I would turn water off while investigating.

It's hard to source such a float valve, but a torbeck valve is readily available at plumbers merchants.
 

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