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Another thread arguing about the value of vaccines (Ed.)

carmanmemoranda said:
Side effects happen, did you read the side effects before taking it?
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Were you given a sheet listing all the side effects when you get most jabs?

Jabs are different from drugs in that respect...

Did you read a list of all possible side effects before having a 'virus' jab?

Well they weren't known at that time were they...

Or if they were there was no information

carmanmemoranda said:
Define rushed, as brig says
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There was apparently an outbreak where I was heading for and a new jab was hastily produced...

Sounds familiar?

But back then there was no real internet to get information from.
 
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ellal said:
Were you given a sheet listing all the side effects when you get most jabs?

Jabs are different from drugs in that respect...

Did you read a list of all possible side effects before having a 'virus' jab?

Well they weren't known at that time were they...

Or if they were there was no information



There was apparently an outbreak where I was heading for and a new jab was hastily produced...

Sounds familiar?

But back then there was no real internet to get information from.
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What side effects?

If you were to inject over a couple of billion people with water, you'd get many thousands dying and having 'side effects' lol.

Safer than Calpol boyo. Man up, it's only a ickle needle.
 
noseall said:
What side effects?

If you were to inject over a couple of billion people with water, you'd get many thousands dying and having 'side effects' lol.

Safer than Calpol boyo. Man up, it's only a ickle needle.
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Ah, so jabs don't have side effects?

And you were told this to be true before having any?

Same sad old 'man up' comment I see...

No surprise there from someone who just went along with the crowd without question when told to do so...

It ain't me that needs to 'man up' ;)
 
ellal said:
Ah, so jabs don't have side effects?
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Not at all. The best effect is that that you live. Mild sniffles are combatted through sheer bravery or a strong cup of tea.

Safer than Calpol boyo and you hate the fact.
 
Risteard said:
I'm really not, but if you wish to be addicted to lethal injections then sadly there's not much that I can do about that.
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How lethal are these vaccines? Are they more dangerous than smoking, or is it more like eating bacon, or is it closer to the risks of death due to vending machine?

Are any of the COVID vaccines worse than the others?
 
ellal said:
Were you given a sheet listing all the side effects when you get most jabs?
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Yes. And had to sign to say I'd received it
ellal said:
Jabs are different from drugs in that respect...
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How?
ellal said:
Did you read a list of all possible side effects before having a 'virus' jab?
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I read the it about side effects and adverse reactions. Probably still got it.
ellal said:
Well they weren't known at that time were they...
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Obviously yes they were
ellal said:
Or if they were there was no information
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Rubbish. Contradicting yourself
ellal said:
There was apparently an outbreak where I was heading for and a new jab was hastily produced...

Sounds familiar?
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No idea what you are on about.
ellal said:
But back then there was no real internet to get information from.
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How long ago are you talking ?
 
Ellal. I've had the vaccines. Nothing you say can change that.

What are you trying to achieve with your rubbish ?
 
For information: Older Typhoid vaccines used innactivated whole cells and did have relatively high adverse effects. This was knows pretty much from the start in 1952. In 1994 a different vaccine using newer technology called Vi was approved and after it was established as being effective the older less safe vaccines were withdrawn.

Ellals example of big pharma gone wrong is actually an excellent example of the challenges in vaccination where you have less effective and less safe treatments, but where they're still safer than having no vaccine at all.
 
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Risteard said:
I'm really not, but if you wish to be addicted to lethal injections then sadly there's not much that I can do about that.
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You’ve literally contradicted yourself in the same sentence

you claim not to use misinformation…..then you call the covid vaccination “lethal injection”

The covid vaccination is not a “lethal injection”, 13 billion vaccinations have been, if it was a lethal injection, we might have noticed there were no people left
 
Risteard said:
I'm really not, but if you wish to be addicted to lethal injections then sadly there's not much that I can do about that.
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Risteard, what do your family and friends think of your anti vax conspiracy?
 
ellal said:
Were you given a sheet listing all the side effects when you get most jabs?

Jabs are different from drugs in that respect...

Did you read a list of all possible side effects before having a 'virus' jab?

Well they weren't known at that time were they...

Or if they were there was no information



There was apparently an outbreak where I was heading for and a new jab was hastily produced...

Sounds familiar?

But back then there was no real internet to get information from.
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You are a very tedious and boring anti vaxxer

Your family must be really fed up with your nonsense
 
carmanmemoranda said:
I read the it about side effects and adverse reactions. Probably still got it.
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You'll be able to post it here then?
carmanmemoranda said:
Obviously yes they were
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Including the ones that were discovered afterwards?

carmanmemoranda said:
No idea what you are on about.
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It's quite simple really..

Vaccination campaigns are used to control outbreaks of disease...

A different one was used for when I went for a new strain apparently, and it was withdrawn because of the side effects as it hadn't been fully tested and was rushed in...

How many different jabs were produced in a few years for the 'virus'?
 
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Notch7 said:
You are a very tedious and boring anti vaxxer

Your family must be really fed up with your nonsense
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John D is looking a bit foolish thanks to you btw ;)

Funnily enough in our family everyone is allowed their own views...

How about yours?

And if any decided not to have the jabs do you preach to them and call them anti vaxxers?

Or how about friends if you have any?
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Ellal. I've had the vaccines. Nothing you say can change that.

What are you trying to achieve with your rubbish ?
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Nothing wrong with individual choice...

However when the jabs were introduced those who decided not to partake were berated constantly by those that did...

And the media got behind that/stoked it...

So what's your problem with pointing out the other point of view?

Unless of course you want mandatory jabs in the future?
 
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