Another thread arguing about the value of vaccines (Ed.)

[IT Minion]

It came out of channel 4s arse.
just over 52,000 are not thought to have a medical exemption, which means they’re at risk of losing their jobs in April if they don’t get vaccinated in the next fortnight.
That’s roughly 3.5 per cent of all staff who work with patients.

FactCheck: tens of thousands of NHS England staff face dismissal over compulsory vaccines

Health workers have until 3 February to get their first dose.

www.channel4.com

(who work with patients ) - are you going to argue the semantics about defining the word nurses for 100 pages.
And then you can add the 40,000 care home staff on top of that

That's a good link, it shows that of your 80k people who didn't get vaccinated probably 30k of them wouldn't have been allowed to because of medical exemption.

But that's still of all staff. Not just nurses or patient facing roles. The 3.5% is just doing a simple division and apparently just applying the same % to all roles, which is foolish.

 

[IT Minion]

First it's 80,000, then it's 52,000, then it's 3.5%, which would make 12,500 nurses.

 

[aveatry]

No, that 80k included non-patient facing roles. It's in the bloody article you quoted.

Do you have the figure for patient facing roll then - the nearest definition I can find is the Chanel fact check that says its 52,000 that were not fully vaxed
I get the distinct impression that you are just trolling now

 

[IT Minion]

Do you have the figure for patient facing roll then - the nearest definition I can find is the Chanel fact check that says its 52,000 that were not fully vaxed
I get the distinct impression that you are just trolling now

Go find it yourself, I'm not here to do your research for you. But if you do find it I'll check it because you're really, really bad at this.

 

[aveatry]

Go find it yourself, I'm not here to do your research for you. But if you do find it I'll check it because you're really, really bad at this.

Then we will have to stick at the Chanel 4 fact check that says its 52,000 staff who work with patients that were not fully vaxed

 

[aveatry]

Oh and that reminds me @denso13 as you are here liking your mates post have you found the proof of this statement you made yet, I have looked but can not find it. I am sure you have it otherwise you would not of posted it.

It was predicted by a leading virologist that the jab would kill everyone who had it, almost 6 billion people, that they would all be dead within two years.

 

[noseall]

So you consider anecdotal experience bullshiiiit do you ?

No. I just consider a majority of what you and your troll mates post, is bullshít.

 

[denso13]

I am sure you have it otherwise you would not of posted it.

Correct. Oh, if you also have a search you'll see I've been talking about it for years now.

 

[aveatry]

No. I just consider a majority of what you and your troll mates post, is bullshít.

But you are happy to accept notches and carman’s anecdotes. But not mine, so you must be the "hear no" monkey -- I am happy to accept their anecdotes on face value although carmans uses his in a deceitful way sometimes.

 

[aveatry]

Correct. Oh, if you also have a search you'll see I've been talking about it for years now.

You saying the same thing over and over doesn’t make it true. So lets just have the link/source to this statement then ---

It was predicted by a leading virologist that the jab would kill everyone who had it, almost 6 billion people, that they would all be dead within two years.

If you didn’t just make it up then it should be really easy for you.

 

[IT Minion]

Then we will have to stick at the Chanel 4 fact check that says its 52,000 staff who work with patients that were not fully vaxed

No, it isn't.

NHS data shows that there are currently 1.48 million health care workers employed by trusts in England. With 1.39 million first doses delivered to staff, that leaves 81,626 completely unvaccinated.

In November, the government estimated that 2 per cent of the total workforce would be eligible for a medical exemption from the vaccine (though it admits that this is hard to determine for certain).

Using that assumption, we estimate that 29,607 staff would have a valid excuse for not getting jabbed.

Taken together, that leaves us with 52,019 NHS workers who – according to the current regulations – should be vaccinated, but are not.

They don't say 52,000 front line staff, they say 52,000 staff. The percentage figure they give for front line staff is 3.5%, they don't state where they got that but it's clearly a simple derivation from total staff vaccination rates and assuming it holds true for patient facing roles.

You are so, so incredibly bad at this. Possibly the perfect poster child for Dunning Kruger.

 

[denso13]

If you didn’t just make it up then it should be really easy for you.

It is.

 

[noseall]

But you are happy to accept

You are a renowned troll. Your credibility was shot long ago. I'll accept the truth.

 

[aveatry]

It is.

Then do so. So lets just have the link/source to this statement then ---

It was predicted by a leading virologist that the jab would kill everyone who had it, almost 6 billion people, that they would all be dead within two years.

 

[IT Minion]

It is.

To be fair when I copied your sentence into Google and added 'myth' to it the result was something like the eighth on the page. Since Averty doesn't read his own links that's beyond him.