Bathroom LEDs

[JimBin]

I recently moved into a house with 4 Ceiling LED lights in the bathroom. It’s clear the previous owner liked to dabble in electrical work. Two have stopped working after the worse were moved with insulation work, and the other two don’t switch off fully - they ghost. I’ve looked in the loft at the connection (photo attached). I’m going to go back to basics and check all connections to each light but would the dodgy earths have anything to do with ghosting

Also, any value in putting these in something more modern - Wago connectors within a box?

 

[endecotp]

Two have stopped working after the worse were moved with insulation work,

I can’t parse that, can you edit it?

 

[endecotp]

the other two don’t switch off fully - they ghost.

Looking at your picture, I guess the cables are, clockwise from 12 o’clock: lights, switch, fan, supply in & out.

How long are the cable runs to the switch, light & fan? My guess is that the cause is capacitive coupling in one of those cables, or in the fan. It’s not a “smart switch”, is it? If I were you, I’d try carefully disconnecting things in that junction box and see what, if anything, stops the “ghosting”.

It may be that new lights would not suffer this problem.

would the dodgy earths have anything to do with ghosting

What do you mean by “dodgy earths”?

I’m curious about the large earth wire. Where does that go? Does it maybe attach to bathroom water pipes?

Also, any value in putting these in something more modern - Wago connectors within a box?

No. Some strain relief would be a good idea though.

 

[jj4091]

Probably just cheap led lamps.

 

[blup]

Yu can check and tighten all the connections or replace with wago boxes but that involves terminations too even though ultimately MF

 

[AndyPRK]

Junction looks neat to me and not done by a diyer. I’d leave alone

 

[mikehammer69]

Junction looks neat to me and not done by a diyer. I’d leave alone

JB in picture ? It's only ok work.

Starting point being one of those 4-way boxes don't help either

 

[pete01]

New colours so I assume all rcd, so what's the big earth for I wonder

 

[morqthana]

Junction looks neat to me and not done by a diyer.

So a pro electrician snipped 2 strands in that large G/Y cable to make it fit?

OK.

 

[AndyPRK]

Well the requirements say a CPC on it's own needs to be a certain thickness, but that is not compatable with connecting to light fittings/6A junctions.

On the plus side:
No exposed wires (grey sheath into JB)
CPC sleeving on everything
brown sleeving to identify.

 

[Murdochcat]

How old is the property?

 

[endecotp]

CPC sleeving on everything
brown sleeving to identify.

But no blue sleeving on the black from the brown/black/grey that is being used a a neutral.

 

[JaronteMack]

I recently moved into a house with 4 Ceiling LED lights in the bathroom. It’s clear the previous owner liked to dabble in electrical work. Two have stopped working after the worse were moved with insulation work, and the other two don’t switch off fully - they ghost. I’ve looked in the loft at the connection (photo attached). I’m going to go back to basics and check all connections to each light but would the dodgy earths have anything to do with ghosting 67 clicker

Also, any value in putting these in something more modern - Wago connectors within a box?

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