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there was a recent one who got less for grooming and raping a 13 year old.
I find it odd that a person gets more jail for anal, than if he'd stabbed her.
Brand Guilty.
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I find it odd that a person gets more jail for anal, than if he'd stabbed her.
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It's a long sentence, I fear he may do an Epstein.
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This may be an unpopular view, but I would be in favour of indictable offences having a statute of limitation, like summary offences. Perhaps with a break glass option for cases with overwhelming evidence and not being applicable for those on the run.
But a person living in plain sight, with victims available to bring their allegations at any time, I think a 10-15 year limitation might be reasonable.
But a person living in plain sight, with victims available to bring their allegations at any time, I think a 10-15 year limitation might be reasonable.
You should reflect why it took so long for the victims to come forward. Trumpf could well be languishing in prison as a convicted rap ist if the US had no limitation period.
Posters saying I never liked Brand but… smacks of disguised sympathy.
As for the left wing conspiracy theories, remember his offences were carried out when he was a left leaning/ Labor supporter. The same establishment that ignored him then is now accused of setting him up. Pathetic, and an insult to his victims.
That said Brand is a poster boy for the police’s success, and of PR value for them because it masks the very low conviction rates for less high profile victims.
Posters saying I never liked Brand but… smacks of disguised sympathy.
As for the left wing conspiracy theories, remember his offences were carried out when he was a left leaning/ Labor supporter. The same establishment that ignored him then is now accused of setting him up. Pathetic, and an insult to his victims.
That said Brand is a poster boy for the police’s success, and of PR value for them because it masks the very low conviction rates for less high profile victims.
I believe convicts don't mind fellow-inmates who have raped adult women, and like to swap stories. It's the nonces that are targetted.
Yes, when will see some progress on going after muslim grooming gangs?
Maybe an immigrant? Different rules for them.
On say so, or evidence? Suppose that's for the court, jury and judge to decipher.
On the one hand I understand why folk wonder why victims don't come forward for years (or decades) after an alleged event, however on the other hand I can totally see why, for various reasons, folk don't come forward straight away.
On a different but linked subject, I'm not sure I'd be in favour of a stature of limitations as other countries have.
Husband: Did you hear about Mike Jones from no. 18? Apparently he's just been done for assaulting a woman in the park last week. Police have asked for others to come forward if they have any information.
Wife: (pause) MMmmm, can't say I'm totally surprised.
Husband: Eh, what makes you say that? I always thought he seemed a decent enough bloke.
Wife: Remember that time you were away at a conference in Germany? I was cleaning out the garage with the main door open. He walked in. I felt uncomfortable, especially with the way he was talking to me, so I asked him to leave. He pinned me against the garage wall and tried to, well, you know. I think he only stopped because a delivery van drew up close by and the driver might have seen what was happening.
Husband: What? Eh?!? Why did you never tell me? The Germany conference was at least 15 years ago. I would have confronted him!
Wife: And that's partly why I said nothing. I didn't want you getting into trouble, your career was on the up. And I just didn't want it all getting dragged up at the time. The kids were young, your dad was ill, we had enough on our plates. But now I know this has happened, I'm going to go to the police to tell them what he did to me. There might be other women he's done this to, and to a worse degree than happened to me.
You should pay more attention to the forum. The truly industrial scale groominggangs were local authority care homes but prosecutions were few and far between
How long did Mike get?
I was more thinking he might top himself, especially if his finances take a major hit. I don't think he's got the constitution to be able to handle being despised and reviled. Add to that it seems likely there will be more court cases.
Nah he’ll do his time and take his millions out of his blind trust when he’s released and start up a podcast
