Bye Bye Gary

[denso13]

He didn't breach the law by criticising jews/zionists, he fell foul by reposting an image comparing them to rats.

Yes, not really like rats cause they are good in tunnels.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

I too support Linekers stand, he accepted he was in the wrong and apologised.

Strictly speaking the rat symbol was used against Jews in Germany, and that is why it is antiSemitic when used against Jews.
The tweet or whatever it was that Lineker reposted was used against Zionists.
To use a rat symbol to symbolise Zionists is only as bad as using the same symbol against immigrants. An image that I suspect has been created in this forum before now.
If it's racist to use an image of rats to symbolise Zionists, it must be equally racist to use that image to symbolise immigrants.

 

[fillyboy]

Strictly speaking the rat symbol was used against Jews in Germany, and that is why it is antiSemitic when used against Jews.
The tweet or whatever it was that Lineker reposted was used against Zionists.
To use a rat symbol to symbolise Zionists is only as bad as using the same symbol against immigrants. An image that I suspect has been created in this forum before now.
If it's racist to use an image of rats to symbolise Zionists, it must be equally racist to use that image to symbolise immigrants.

I see.

 

[motorbiking]

That wasn't mbk's argument.
He claimed that antiZionism is antiSemitic. It isn't.



I support Lineker's stand. Sometimes financial interest is trumped by moral principles.

I think we know your stance on the subject. It seems to be the kind of racism you applaud.

 

[motorbiking]

Mbk misinterprets the ruling, again:

Employment Tribunal rules that anti-Zionist beliefs are protected under Equality Act

Being anti-Zionist qualifies as a philosophical belief and a protected characteristic under section 10 of the Equality Act, an employment tribunal has found. It was ruled in February that Professor David Miller was unfairly discriminated against when he was dismissed by the University of Brist

www.scottishlegal.com

If anti-Zionism is protected, then Zionism cannot be protected as a characteristic.

Debunking the myth that anti-Zionism is antisemitic | Peter Beinart

The long read: All over the world, it is an alarming time to be Jewish – but conflating anti-Zionism with Jew-hatred is a tragic mistake

www.theguardian.com

AntiZionism is antiSemitic according to Jews. Anti Israel is antiSemitic according to Jews.
But that is like arguing that any criticism of Hamas is islamophobic, and includes all Arabs, or all Muslims.

It is acceptable to criticise Israel, and to criticise the Zionist belief.
Only being Jewish is a protected characteristic.

The case you quoted is completely irrelevant.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

I think we know .....

There's your problem.
You think you know. and every perception you ever form is based on what you think you know.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

The case you quoted is completely irrelevant.

You make a bland rebuttal without any supporting argument.
Not really a discussion, is it?
More like a child's "Yes, it is, No it isn't" ping-pong.

 

[Notch7]

Boohoo. There you go, will that do ya?

Thank you for finally actually admitting you don’t give a monkeys about the innocent Palestinians killed in Gaza.

Is it because they are Muslims?

You have just become a supporter of the Muslim hating Reform party, which wants Mosques destroyed….probably with them still inside, like in Gaza.

 

[Mottie]

Thank you for finally actually admitting you don’t give a monkeys about the innocent Palestinians killed in Gaza.

I said "Boohoo" didn’t I? What more would you like me to say?

 

[Notch7]

It’s funny how the right wingers on here whined on and on about how people got arrested for posting comments encouraging violence against refugees was an affront to free speech ………….are the same people that are cheering loudly that Lineker got sacked for reposting an image that supposedly likened somebody to a rat.

The right wing Muslim haters on here are a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[Notch7]

I said "Boohoo" didn’t I? What more would you like me to say?

The phrase “Boohoo” is a mocking imitation of another's tears

In other words you find it funny that 50,000+ Palestinian children and women have died and millions suffered terribly.


I can fully understand why you are supporter of the Klu Klux Klan Reform party

 

[Mottie]

The phrase “Boohoo” is a mocking imitation of another's tears

Then I must have been mocking yours for the innocent unarmed civilians attending a festival on October 7th. You did express tears of sympathy for those, didn’t you?

 

[motorbiking]

You make a bland rebuttal without any supporting argument.
Not really a discussion, is it?
More like a child's "Yes, it is, No it isn't" ping-pong.

BBC has a code of conduct which requires impartiality - Bristol University did not.
Dr Miller was an employee - Linaker was a supplier.
Bristol University was required to follow a different process
Dr Miller made further comments on social media in August 2023. He said that “Jews are not discriminated against”, are “overrepresented” and that “Judeophobia barely exists these days”. So like yours, his true hatred was revealed.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Then I must have been mocking yours for the innocent unarmed civilians attending a festival on October 7th. You did express tears of sympathy for those, didn’t you?

It should be quite easy for you to find any posts of Notch's that support your allegation.
You know precisely the date of the Palestinian incursion into Israel, so any posts from Notch that supports your allegation will be very soon after that date.

 

[motorbiking]

much harder for Tommy Ten Names.