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Can robots replace real workers

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by lolazola, 24 Feb 2021.

  1. lolazola

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    What do you think about the impact of new smart technologies? I mean, can you consider the idea that robots will change humans soon? I can give an example. I work in an office. We were working from home during the pandemic. Recently our office was reopened and now we are there again. The company cut the stuff. There are no security guys. They decided to install an Ajax professional security system and replace them. The system works perfectly. Maybe even better than people. Will it happen in all the spheres soon?
     
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  3. Yes...been happening for decades..Whether it is robots, or before that invention of steam power, industrial revolution, agric revolution, invention of the wheel.All had dramatic effects on job distribution, type of job etc.
     
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    Chocolate manufacturing used to be a big thing, allowing the chocolate Barrons of the time to build entire model villages for their tens of thousands of employees. Now they're relatively small employers as the level of automation increased.
     
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    I used to give a lecture to computer type students about how robots, specifically AI, will never EVER fully replace us.

    What I predicted all those years ago is still true today. They will NEVER crack the last 5% of the program, the very 'essence' of what it means to be Human. Therefore, their program can never hope to emulate us.

    I started to use 'smart motorways' as part of the reasons why when they were being planned & my predictions on 'smart motorways' have all been proven true. In the next few years 'smart motorways' will disappear. Unless you can understand the true reasons why they appeared in the first place, then you can never understand why they will shortly disappear. Ditto AI driven 'robots'.
     
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  6. motorbiking

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    Hopefully you teach the difference between machine learning and AI
     
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    Certain tasks can get automated, others can't as they aren't repetitive enough but every time a bit different. Lots of production and clerical office jobs have disappeared due to technical change and more will follow, but other jobs are springing up too.
     
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    100% yes they can, already are doing, and will continue to increase. Although I didn't watch much of it, there was a tv series on recently with the Chasers off ITV's The Chase facing different intelligence challenges from across the globe. In one episode, they visited an electronics production line I think in China. The production line is already a mix of humans and robots. Whilst the robots are slower at completing their tasks (for now) they have the advantage of not requiring breaks and if required can run 24/7, so overall depending on the task they can be more productive.

    To me it's surely logical. As the decades roll by, robots coupled with AI developments will continue to improve, including the breadth of tasks they can accomplish. Of course, if viewing the 'is it a good thing?' question on a purely Y/N basis, society will fall into either of the two camps. Personally, I think it's good ... and we won't stop it anyway ;)
     
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    I'll give you clue on where to start with your thought patterns.

    A robotic arm can quite easily catch a ball. A robotic arm can NEVER decide whether it actually wants to catch the ball.

    The difference is HUGE.
     
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    Humans can be robots. In fact the earliest "robots" were humans

    Robot is drawn from an old Church Slavonic word, robota, for “servitude,” “forced labor” or “drudgery.” The word, which also has cognates in German, Russian, Polish and Czech, was a product of the central European system of serfdom by which a tenant’s rent was paid for in forced labor or service.

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    Mechanical robots can replace humans where the task is drudgery or repetitive and boredom allows for human error to become excessive. But for some tasks the human cannot be replaced by a machine. Sometimes the tactile feel of the human figure is essential feed back as to how the hand holds and moves a fragile item at speed.
     
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    I'll give you another track for your thought patterns to ponder . . .

    You were/are conditioned to think that 'smart motorways' were/are going to be a good thing for you & everyone would be happy forever after.

    You forgot to give ANY thought WHATSOEVER about what happens to YOU when your vehicle breaks down on that 'smart motorway' didn't you?

    You believe what they told you because you trust them.

    Hopefully, you are beginning to realise that they didn't tell you the whole truth.

    Do you know why they didn't tell you the whole truth?
     
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    When will Skynet go live ?
     
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    Anytime you want if you have Netflix.
     
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    Incidentally, yet still somehow linked to AI. How Hollywood portrays your fantasy of 'Skynet' is just that . . . Your "fantasy".

    If AI were to ever exist in the real world, then it must have the capability of making an independant decision. Because it has the capability of making that decision for itself then we have NO control on the boundaries or the consequences of that decision.

    If we invent a truly AI 'being', then we invent something that may decide to destroy its maker.

    Mary Shelley published 'Frankensteins Monster' in 1818 & despite the passage of over 200yrs it seems that some folk still don't understand . . .
     
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    It's all just chemicals and Myelin laminated Neural pathways. Want, is just a learned behaviour that you get the happy hormones if you catch it.

    Given simple life forms have limited emotions and animals with bigger brains have more.. the same must be true of a computers ?
     
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    You can't tar everyone with the same brush in making such sweeping statements.

    I personally think the advancement of AI and robots is a good thing. Will it be used for so called 'evil' things? Yes, mankind will never learn from its mistakes on that front, master of its own downfall etc, so of course it'll be used for nasty things. That doesn't however mean it can't/shouldn't be used for good stuff.

    As for the 'smart' motorways, many people including me never thought they were a good idea. Why? Cause as pointed out by you, there's a human element to the process. Just because the actual motorway is smart doesn't mean all the humans using it are, and by 'not smart' I'm including to be expected human conditions such as panic, confusion etc. Not meant in a derogatory way towards mankind.
     
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