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Changing ceiling rose for flush fit light... again.

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by J2001, 7 Jan 2020.

  1. J2001

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    Existing light with light ceiling rose, change for new light is a flush fit LED jobby.
    Existing cable comes through the joist and next to no slack. I assume there is a cut out above and they bend in. (this seems to be the crux of my problem).

    There is no slack or space to bend the cables back up with a junction box on but it will with something like a wago on but I cannot do this?
    New lamp does not have enough hole for all the cables but would if I enbigged it but lose warranty (can live with that).

    I have searched, I understand that I cannot remove the rose and wago up and put the connectors into the void of the room (downstairs room, no access from above without lifting carpets etc.).

    If I make the new light fitting hole larger, I can put the connections inside the fitting.

    I could try to change the fitting but as long as it is working, I can live with the bigger hole.

    What have I got wrong if I may ask?

    Cheers.

    Edit to add no slack. oops.
     
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    Show some pics of what's coming out the ceiling ,and the base of the light fitting. Pics speak volumes !!!
     
  3. J2001

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    Apologies.
    Ceiling cable exit.
    Light rear.
    Now thinking hiding to nothing and changing light. P1080575.JPG P1080572.JPG
     
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    What is the inside of the fitting like ,is there no space inside to accommodate the cables / connectors ?
     
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    I could if I could get the cables in but that small central hole is all there is, the existing fitting is one with all the loop wires as well.

    I am having second thoughts since posting this. If I bodge the fitting (drilling out the hole), I don't like bodged, there will need to be protection on the edge. And it is a bodge. I think safest is to get a fitting that will work, I have done one previously and all cables connecting inside fitting nice and neat.
     
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    Probably the best thing to do.
     
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    Thanks for the input. (its enough to bounce an idea around).
    Think Ikea take it back and I have not done anything to it other than open the box. Didn't think to look at that before hand and now I will be more aware to check the existing fitting first.
     
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    i would just make the existing hole in the new fitting bigger . but only if you think there is enough room inside to do the connections
     
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    Hole was right next to the internal connection block, new hole or con block would have to be removed and be very very careful with drill and swarf, not insurmountable but 13mm was max I could go but warranty kept coming back to worry me (despite not worrying earlier). I was going to do it but wanted to see what options with regards regs but the more I thought about, the more I thought just buy the right fitting.

    Sorry to be a pain.
     
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