converting a bedroom to a kitchen...?

[jimbohotdog]

hello i am busy trying to help out my brother in law who does not have a lot of money to get his 'kitchen wired up' as he is now having the upstairs of the house as my in laws are both disabled so this is a must happen project.
basically there is 3 sockets in the room two single and one double so i was wondering if i could take these 'back' and fit junction boxes with which i could then fit/loop onto new sockets and fuse spur switches required for the built in wine chiller and fridge freezer ? also a built in microwaqve too..? if anyone could answer me i would be most grateful.....
also on other side of room i need to wire in a cooker extractor fan/hood on other side of room??..
yours truly confused.com...

 

[Geps]

How can he afford a wine chiller but not an electrician to wire it in?

Sounds like he has his priorities wrong.....

 

[jimbohotdog]

he got it free with the kitchen ass my father in law has paid for kitchen... mad. ain't it but he wont get it installed for him.....

 

[Taylortwocities]

A kitchen is a special location as defined in Building Regulations Part P. So it is not just a case of "wiring it up".
You'll need to notify the local authority and pay their fee, if you want to DIY it. The local authority will want to see work that complies with BS7671 and proper installation test results and certificates.

If you not know the implications of this then you should get a registered electrician to do the work and notify it as being compliant.
See http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:part_p:diy_electrical_work_and_the_law

 

[Paul_C]

A kitchen is a special location as defined in Building Regulations Part P.

Not a special location, but included with special locations as making certain works notifiable:

4. For the purposes of this Schedule—

“kitchen” means a room or part of a room which contains a sink and food preparation facilities;

But if you do all the wiring before you fit the sink and food preparation facilities, then it's not a kitchen at the time the wiring is carried out anyway.

 

[holmslaw]

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[Taylortwocities]

But if you do all the wiring before you fit the sink and food preparation facilities, then it's not a kitchen at the time the wiring is carried out anyway.

Don't be so bl***y stupid. The wiring for the electrics are usually done before the kitchen arrives. And you know it to553r.

On that basis you can go through a red traffic light if you close your eyes and cannot see that it is red. Good grief.

 

[Paul_C]

Where does Schedule 4 say anything about a room which is to become a kitchen later?

It refers only to a room which is a kitchen, and defines that as being a room which contains a sink and food preparation area. So for the purposes of the Building Regulations, until the room contains those features, it is not a kitchen.

I'm not saying that makes any sort of logical sense if the work is being done as part of converting the room to a kitchen, but that is what the regulations say. Until the room actually becomes a kitchen, therefore, the same notifiable vs. non-notifiable conditions apply as to a living room, dining room, bedroom, etc.

 

[Paul_C]

Looking through links to old posts:

http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=154833&start=0

Even B-A-S agrees with me on this one!

 

[flameport]

Regardless of the electrical installation, installing a kitchen into a room which isn't currently a kitchen will be notifiable anyway, as water supplies and drainage will have to be installed, suitable ventilation must be provided and other aspects such as fire safety must also be considered.

 

[Paul_C]

Looking at that, it does highlight a way of adding sockets etc. in your kitchen quite legally without notifying, if you were crazy enough to go to all the trouble:

Remove the sink first. By the definition in the building regulations, the room then ceases to be a kitchen. Add your sockets, move your lights and switches, etc. Then refit the sink. All legally non-notifiable if you do it that way!