Cyclist's near miss at level crossing

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Why do they have a half barrier? Can't cost a lot more to have a full one.
 
I'm a regular cyclist and always supports cyclists vs drivers... however... on this video, I'm on the side of the train !!! (not literally, as she nearly was !!)
 
I would think a single peice full barrier would be more hazardous than half-barriers because if someone didn't notice the sound/lights it could trap them in the crossing.

A set of four barriers mostly avoids this problem by closing the entries to the crossing before closing the exits but I imagine that is a lot more expensive than a pair of half barriers.
 
You could put a brick wall up and it still wouldn't stop idiots like her.

My theory is that cyclists are so used to ignoring red traffic lights, this one thought she'd be perfectly safe ignoring the flashing amber lights.

Funny how she decided to go back the way she came. My guess is that she had to get home quickly to change her knickers.
 
My theory is that cyclists are so used to ignoring red traffic lights, this one thought she'd be perfectly safe ignoring the flashing amber lights.

Wow, normally JBR you are on the ball.. but that comment is nonsence my friend.

I cycle to work 3 times a week, and I obey traffic lights, and I recently stopped using headphones whilst cycling... and I always wear a helmet.

I am obviously a driver, so I understand the stand off between the two factions !!
 
Most cyclists I see on the roads, tend to ignore traffic lights and the Highway Code. They'll undertake a car which has a left turn signal on,,, overtake cars signalling a right turn. Ignore pedestrians on crossings. Swerve all over the bloody road. I think a mind reader would have a hard time figuring out just where some of these prats are going. I've seen them on the roads at night, wearing dark clothing and riding without any lights (the ones who wonder why their waking up in a hospital bed):wink: :wink:
 
Most cyclists I see on the roads, tend to ignore traffic lights and the Highway Code. They'll undertake a car which has a left turn signal on,,, overtake cars signalling a right turn. Ignore pedestrians on crossings. Swerve all over the bloody road. I think a mind reader would have a hard time figuring out just where some of these prats are going. :wink: :wink:

Well I disagree... and I don't believe you!!!
What you describe is 'potential' problems, but I bet a small fortune that you aint seen any of that this week !!
 
These people are at risk whatever solution you put in place aren't they?
We can only attempt to reduce the risk to them not eliminate them. If someone is travelling on the wrong side of the road AND misses/ignores the sound/lights AND arrives at the wrong time there is very little you can do.

At the same time barriers are only needed to stop people who either fail to notice the sound/lights or actively ignore them. So any comparison of barrier types must be made with that in mind and from a moral point of view IMO protecting people who fail to notice the sound/lights is more important than protecting people who willfully ignore them.

If someone travelling on the correct side of the road and moving at reasonable speeds misses the sound/lights then on a half barrier or 4-barrier system they will either cross the crossing safely or hit the barrier on entering the crossing (which will hopefully do them less injury than hitting the train would)

With a full width single barrier system someone travelling on the correct side of the road and how misses/ignores the sound/lights may enter the crossing but be unable to leave it and be trapped in the crossing. That is about the worst case scenario.
 
Well I disagree... and I don't believe you!!!
What you describe is 'potential' problems, but I bet a small fortune that you aint seen any of that this week !!

Tuesday morning on my way to work, I was sat waiting at traffic lights, indicating I was turning left. Two cyclists came up on the nearside of the vehicle and when the lights changed travelled straight on. OK only held me up for about 5 - 10 seconds, but,, had I not noticed them, they could have caused a serious accident (to themselves) What if it had been a lorry waiting at the traffic lights instead of me? Possibly a lorry driver would not have even noticed them in is wing mirrors.
 
These people are at risk whatever solution you put in place aren't they?
We can only attempt to reduce the risk to them not eliminate them. If someone is travelling on the wrong side of the road AND misses/ignores the sound/lights AND arrives at the wrong time there is very little you can do.

At the same time barriers are only needed to stop people who either fail to notice the sound/lights or actively ignore them. So any comparison of barrier types must be made with that in mind and from a moral point of view IMO protecting people who fail to notice the sound/lights is more important than protecting people who willfully ignore them.

If someone travelling on the correct side of the road and moving at reasonable speeds misses the sound/lights then on a half barrier or 4-barrier system they will either cross the crossing safely or hit the barrier on entering the crossing (which will hopefully do them less injury than hitting the train would)

With a full width single barrier system someone travelling on the correct side of the road and how misses/ignores the sound/lights may enter the crossing but be unable to leave it and be trapped in the crossing. That is about the worst case scenario.

Normally manage to read the whole way through most posts... not yors though, sorry.. to yawnery !!
 
Most cyclists I see on the roads, tend to ignore traffic lights and the Highway Code. They'll undertake a car which has a left turn signal on,,, overtake cars signalling a right turn. Ignore pedestrians on crossings. Swerve all over the bloody road. I think a mind reader would have a hard time figuring out just where some of these prats are going. :wink: :wink:

Well I disagree... and I don't believe you!!!
What you describe is 'potential' problems, but I bet a small fortune that you aint seen any of that this week !!

You're quite wrong Som. Whilst I believe you that you don't do such things and are a safe and sensible cyclist, I see the sort of stupidity and selfishness that Jock describes nearly every day.
 
Somby, I'm not tarring all cyclists with the same brush. I do see lots of cyclists who are considerate, same as other drivers too, but there does seem to be a lot of cyclists who seem to think the rules of the road don't apply to them (and they ain't kids either) :wink:
 
It's the type in Lycra with massive balls that are the problem.
 
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