darbys, feather edges, and bits of wood

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still use them daily on textures both acrylic and silicon.

What make you using ? Hard to get nice ones now

i cut down marshalltown drywall angle trowels so the wings are about 1 1/2 inch wide then your good to go!

 

[Micilin]

still use them daily on textures both acrylic and silicon.

What make you using ? Hard to get nice ones now

i cut down marshalltown drywall angle trowels so the wings are about 1 1/2 inch wide then your good to go!

Cheers!

 

[NickB_99]

i cut down marshalltown drywall angle trowels so the wings are about 1 1/2 inch wide then your good to go!

I got a Ragni internal one about 2 weeks ago which looks v similar. Looked to use it but was concerned that the internal angle is actually about 100 degrees - so I thought the pressure the 'wings' would exert would mess up part way into the walls.

Was thinking of taking it back - but clipping the wings may be a solution

 

[joe-90]

I just bend them in a bit. When you cut them you get lines - when you bend then you don't.

 

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I just bend them in a bit. When you cut them you get lines - when you bend then you don't.

i cut them down joe cause external angles can b as small a 40 mm,then one size fits all

 

[stevethespreader]

When we did external angles, onto brick/block,, (bb),, before beading,,, the corner was formed with the float coat, using the batten as Micilin said, but we never left the corner sharp. The following day, while the coat was still "green", we rounded it to a bullnose, or even a smaller pencil round, (depending) using a wooden float and a water brush. The bottom 5 or 6 inches of the corner were left at 90%, to allow the skirting to fit close. The wall/s were then set using siraphite, and the finished bullnosed corner, after troweling, was finished with the piece of polythene, dipped into water, and gently run down the corner from top to bottom,, without stopping. A square "sharp" plastered external corner (bb) was easily damaged, especially in houses/busy areas, and could also be dangerous. We used Keenes Cement (remember that) on external corners in the corridors of Haslar Hospital, Gosport when i worked there in the 60's, because of the extra strength needed, (trollies being pushed around etc). In the houses, we did window reveals and soffits with the external angle tool because they were less easily damaged, but put a round on door reveals, again to prevent damage to the corner. Forming a wet corner without a bead,, just using a batten,, and not even fixing the batten to the wall, just using the suction of the float coat to hold it, and then carefully slide it up and away to use it on the opposite side of the corner is a work of art. One wrong move and you pull off, what you've spent hours to put on. No big deal with quick setting gypsum plasters of today, but if you got it wrong with a cement render/float coat, late in the day, it was a set back.

this post mirrors what i've just done or not done i done, i've just skimmed my bedroom and done a bullnose corner in my bedroom but the bullnose runs all they way to the floor skirtings going to look crap as you can see in the pic i've been thinking of shaping the corner at the bottom with an external 90 degree angle trowel using easyfill not sure yet as i think it still wont look right, i think it origonally went to the floor but cant be sure as the corner came off with the old skirting so i shaped it with the bullnose angle trowel and a bit of bonding not thinking about the skirting board, by the way rc they have closed haslar hospital more cutbacks im afraid View media item 21505 View media item 21504

 

[roughcaster]

Cheers for that Steve,,, it does spoil the look of the skirting, when the bullnose corner runs right down to the floor. I reckon you could "rough up/pva",, and even tap in half a dozen 25mm galvanised nails to help with the key,, then square off the bottom 5 or 6 inches, using Hardwall. Form the bird beak at the top, where it meets into the bullnose itself. Go for it Steve,, i would,, It'll look perfect.
I did know about Haslar Hospital,,, when i worked in there with a building company, it was a Royal Naval Hospital. It had been a hospital for over 250 years or so. My sister, who lives in Gosport, keeps me up to date with the goings on Gosport, Fareham, Pompey etc.
Talking of Pompey, it's great they're in the FA Cup Final, after beating Tottenham Hotspurs. Good luck to them in the final.

 

[stevethespreader]

Cheers for that Steve,,, it does spoil the look of the skirting, when the bullnose corner runs right down to the floor. I reckon you could "rough up/pva",, and even tap in half a dozen 25mm galvanised nails to help with the key,, then square off the bottom 5 or 6 inches, using Hardwall. Form the bird beak at the top, where it meets into the bullnose itself. Go for it Steve,, i would,, It'll look perfect.
I did know about Haslar Hospital,,, when i worked in there with a building company, it was a Royal Naval Hospital. It had been a hospital for over 250 years or so. My sister, who lives in Gosport, keeps me up to date with the goings on Gosport, Fareham, Pompey etc.
Talking of Pompey, it's great they're in the FA Cup Final, after beating Tottenham Hotspurs. Good luck to them in the final.

cheers rc i cant picture what the birds beak should look like is it a slope that runs from the flat bottom to the bullnose ? and are you saying make the slope itself with hardwall? could you explain what shape should take please? also if the skirting is 4 ins high should i still flatten 5-6 ins off? and how wide from the corner(long ways) arrrgh ive turned into an op, anyone got any pics of a bird beak for me to copy? please? yes rc good luck to pompey

 

[roughcaster]

Yes,, make the whole thing with hardwall, for all it'll take. I'll have a look on Google for a picture or two, to show you what i'm talking about.
It's like a small "V" shaped slope that comes from the bullnose and joins into the 90% corner, giving you a "Y" shape. The leg of the "Y" would measure 5" inches up from floor level.

 

[stevethespreader]

Yes,, make the whole thing with hardwall, for all it'll take. I'll have a look on Google for a picture or two, to show you what i'm talking about.
It's like a small "Y" shaped slope that comes from the bullnose and joins into the 90% corner. I would start this shape 1 " above the finished skirting,,,, or, 5" up from floor level.

cheers m8

 

[marshman]

Have you see a round brick corner on a old building and the round tapers out to a square brick corner above your head,
if you have then that's what you need to reproduce, but its a little bit more drawn out in plaster.
A pic would be good rc as its hard to explain how you do one.

 

[roughcaster]

I will look for a picture,, it's difficult to put into words.

 

[marshman]

I can't find a picture, done many in my time but don't know the name of them.

 

[stevethespreader]

I can't find a picture, done many in my time but don't know the name of them.

thanks anyway m8 all help apprieciated

 

[roughcaster]

I can't find a picture, done many in my time but don't know the name of them.

I'm the same Marshy,,, it was Micilin that referred to them as "bird mouth/bird beak",,, maybe he could describe one. Most older council houses would have had these too.