DIY vs Pro replies in this Sub

[BlueLoo]

Just wondering what the expectation/rules of the forum is in regards to DIY members answering vs Pro members answering posts.

For myself, my sig is clear. I like problem solving so like to look at the threads and suggest logic based solutions where i think i may be of value. Where i dont, I don't.

But, there seems to be quite some friction being generated as the pros take umbrige with the DIY responses.

In some cases, the better pros will explain the difference. In others, there is just a snidey remark or something utterly unconstructive.

Should DIYs keep out of these threads?

Is there a understanding that i am missing?

 

[DiyNutJob]

Calm down. Just carry on as before. If they delete you, they delete you.

 

[denso13]

Should DIYs keep out of these threads?

Of course not, but if the advice is incorrect then it should be corrected.

 

[JohnD]

the pros take umbrige with the DIY responses

to be more accurate, people object to posts that are plainly wrong, and to posts that are offensive or belligerent

Is there a understanding that i am missing?

certainly looks that way.

Calm down. Just carry on as before. If they delete you, they delete you.

Happens to you a lot, does it?

 

[bernardgreen]

If they delete you, they delete you.

I don't think the Mods are that ruthless

They only delete a person's posts, not the person..........

 

[Deleted member 267285]

They only delete a person's posts, not the person..........

Yes, they can delete a member’s profile if it’s justified. Seen a couple go this way.

 

[BlueLoo]

Of course not, but if the advice is incorrect then it should be corrected.

Agreed.

Cuts both ways as well.

 

[ianmcd]

How do you know if they are a pro or not ?

 

[Gasguru]

Those not in the trades (Electrical/Plumbing & Heating) have no idea of the considerable legislation and guidance to comply with...as a diyer it's so easy to have an apparently safe working system but be entirely
oblivious to the hidden dangers or damage caused by a poor system design.
Lately there have been many posts promoting unsafe or poor practice under the disclaimer that it's just diyers giving friendly advice to fellow diyers so that's fine then.
Then we have the constant baiting of professionals, in some cases picking up on the most minor points (especially where the pro has simplified an issue for the benefit of the OP).
The forum has strict safety related rules...and they have been crossed multiple times.
Of course the pros have the CC so if the diyer "advisors" want to stir it up go ahead....we don't need the P&H forum.

Sure you can add chemicals to clean blockages but consider the possible problems with that debris becoming lodged inside the pump, boiler heat exchanger or TRVs.
Modern system components are considerably more vulnerable to sludge and debris....cutting out blocked sections is preferable.
Poking with a stick...really

Compliments to all the pros for their pics...

 

[denso13]

if you could poke something with a stick

It is probably blocked partially up the feed as well, at least to the end of the T piece. Does your stick go round tight corners?

 

[BlueLoo]

How do you know if they are a pro or not ?

The answer

Those not in the trades (Electrical/Plumbing & Heating) have no idea of the considerable legislation and guidance to comply with...as a diyer it's so easy to have an apparently safe working system but be entirely
oblivious to the hidden dangers or damage caused by a poor system design.
Lately there have been many posts promoting unsafe or poor practice under the disclaimer that it's just diyers giving friendly advice to fellow diyers so that's fine then.
Then we have the constant baiting of professionals, in some cases picking up on the most minor points (especially where the pro has simplified an issue for the benefit of the OP).
The forum has strict safety related rules...and they have been crossed multiple times.
Of course the pros have the CC so if the diyer "advisors" want to stir it up go ahead....we don't need the P&H forum.

Sure you can add chemicals to clean blockages but consider the possible problems with that debris becoming lodged inside the pump, boiler heat exchanger or TRVs.
Modern system components are considerably more vulnerable to sludge and debris....cutting out blocked sections is preferable.
Poking with a stick...really

Compliments to all the pros for their pics...



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I think your approach to advise in the forum is one of the best, you explain how, but also why. Others would do well to copy you.

However,

we have the constant baiting of professionals, in some cases picking up on the most minor points (especially where the pro has simplified an issue for the benefit of the OP).

You guys are equally, if not more guilty of this.

Anyway, whilst i respect pros opinions, I don't have to agree with them. This sub is mostly posters asking for help who pros have at best made a mistake or at worst, been negligent.

If you don't want the DIYs to disagree or comment, then say so, lock the sub and make it a response-by-permission sub only.

 

[BlueLoo]

You are, I'm not, having seen this exact same problem many times. And there is always only one long term solution.

Compression fittings?

 

[Notch7]

By the law of averages a professional, who has been fully trained and spends all day, every day gaining experience is rather more likely to provide the correct advice.

that’s how it is

 

[BlueLoo]

By the law of averages a professional, who has been fully trained and spends all day, every day gaining experience is rather more likely to provide the correct advice.

that’s how it is

Agreed.

The training bit, not so much.

A day out with a free lunch and a slide show isn't much training....

 

[denso13]

Compression fittings?

Eh?