Hi thanks for the advice but it works out about the same price as block paving , ive heard somewhere that councils use a gravel that has something mixed in with it to stop it form dissapearing , ive asked builders merchants but unless i have a name for it it wont be on there computer . i could just lay scappings and roller them but it wont look that good . i have also noticed that Marshalls block paving is a reasonable price on ebay but they wont deliver free to my area (south west ) and if i wanted it deliverd its £50 a pallett , so thats another £250 on top , il just have to wait till winter when hopefully the demmand for it wont be so high m either that or i win the lottery