EES checks suspended.

[Mottie]

I see Greece has suspended EES checks for non-EU travellers, Portugal are waving others through at busy times, Spain and Italy are seriously thinking about it too. Looks like they've just realised they may have shot themselves in the foot. Reason given is that the British pound is worth too much for them to be upsetting us Brits. The EU have had ages to get this up and running too - not very good at organising things are they? I think they may quietly drop this as years go on.

This dream from Ellal is now 2 years old. Keep dreaming old chap……

But then there is more...

"After intense dialogues with Member States, with you, with the different stakeholders – I (EU home affairs commissioner Ylva Johansson) have decided that the Entry/Exit System will enter into operations on 10 November."

Ms Johansson said the EES system would mean "every single airport", "harbour" or "road into Europe" would have strict digital border controls.

So in order to enter the EU/EEA, UK citizens are treated the same as criminals or terrorists...

Fingerprints, digital ID etc...

 

[King Billy]

I see Greece has suspended EES checks for non-EU travellers, Portugal are waving others through at busy times, Spain and Italy are seriously thinking about it too. Looks like they've just realised they may have shot themselves in the foot. Reason given is that the British pound is worth too much for them to be upsetting us Brits. The EU have had ages to get this up and running too - not very good at organising things are they? I think they may quietly drop this as years go on.

This dream from Ellal is now 2 years old. Keep dreaming old chap……

What is the cost of the EES to passengers? Which is completed at point of entry. It has no effect on the carrier, nor risks any loss of ticket cost.
What is the cost to passengers for an ETA? Which is required before boarding, otherwise you'll be refused permission to board, by the carrier, and will lose the cost of the ticket.

The EES applies to all non-EU travellers. Greece has only suspended the use of the system for UK travellers, and only for this years holiday season.

 

[Mottie]

Greece has only suspended the use of the system for UK travellers, and only for this years holiday season.

So far……..

I was waved through in Spain a couple of weeks ago and AFTER the EES came into effect and it wasn’t because it was busy.

96 seconds to get through departure gates at Malaga. I don’t ever remember any airport having anywhere near as many men in booths checking passports as there are machines in there now, does anybody? Terrible, the way they treat us non-eu travellers…..


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[ellal]

The EES applies to all non-EU travellers. Greece has only suspended the use of the system for UK travellers, and only for this years holiday season.

Funnily enough if the UK were still in the EU there wouldn't be a problem

But then the rabid brexiteers/EU haters/UK haters always point out problems that they fail to/refuse to understand are of their making

 

[King Billy]

So far……..

I was waved through in Spain a couple of weeks ago and AFTER the EES came into effect and it wasn’t because it was busy.

Such is the vagaries of border controls. Sometimes, even often, there is no rhyme nor reason for those vagaries.
I've been through 9 or 10 border controls in the last couple of months. Half of them European, and the other half non-European. In all those crossings, I've picked up 1 visa, and about 3 entry or exit stamps.

In one discussion with a fellow traveller, the border control refused to allow the person to leave because there was no entry stamp in their passport.
Their argument was that if they hadn't entered the country, they couldn't exit it.
It took references to arrival schedules on specific days and passenger manifests to prove they had legally arrived and entered, and it was not the fault of the traveller, that the passport was not stamped on entry.

Such is the vagaries of border controls. It is what it is on the day.
I suspect that it is intentionally not routine and mundane, for several reasons, to confuse travellers and help prevent smuggling, and to prevent boredom of personnel

And I've still not completed an EES, nor needed an ETA.
But I have been digitally processed in some of the non-European countries.