Fixing a heavy basin to a brick wall

[RigidRaider]

Er... mind if I chip in? I have just hung a heavy basin on a breeze block wall. My son aged 9 swings on it and there's no sign of any movement.

I went to a specialist fixings distributor and got a tube of 2 part quick setting resin. I drilled out two large holes. I bought a length of threaded bar and a couple of large nuts with washers and nylon washers. I cut the bar into 2 lengths about 6". I filled the holes with the resin, shoved in the pieces of bar while turning them so thast excess resin squeezed out all around. I supported the bars until the resein set. Then I bolted the basin to the wall, shimming the bottom carefully to get it sitting exactly level. It is so solid it is effectively part of the wall yet easily removable if need be.

 

[blondini]

hi guys - my dilemma here is that the basin is being hung on the wall in front of the window - i.e the basin bolts will go into breeze brick wall on the top layer of brick (ie the layer the window sill sits on).

I'm worried that there is no stack of bricks (weight and pressure) to help support it.

Darrenh

I think you are right to be concerned about attaching to the top row. It's not just the weight of the basin, it's shape acts as a lever and multiplies any forces exerted. Would it be realistic to fix or bond the sill to the top row in order to reinforce it.

 

[ChrisR]

As long as the basin is DESIGNED to not have a pedestal the holes provided should be ok as long as you get solid fixings in the wall.
Remember the first inch or so could be soft plaster with no strength, so deeper is better.
A good spread of silicone or similar is always a good idea too to spread the load
These are 10 x 120

SHall I put some on ebay for you??!!

 

[darrenh]

Chris

I've got two packets of these already - but thanks for the offer.

You are right - the issue here is not my confidence in breeze block, it is my confidence in the fact it is the top layer of brick and about an inch from the top of the brick where the holes are going in.

The basin is designed to be fitted without a pedestal but this is a bit irrelvant given the above issue.

The actual sill is actually just skimmed plaster so this won't provide any extra support to write home about.

I was thinking about screwing down some 18mm ply on top of the sill - screwing down deep every 200mm to try and counter the cantalever action. Even better would be a thin steel plate (but not sure where to get my hands on one of those).

Basically - I have only one crack at this so need to get it right!

Key is this (and it would be good to get a strawpoll on who think this is a goer): 4 fischer bolts in at 200m centres and inch from the top of a breeze block with a sill above it; will it work???

Darrenh

 

[Balenza]

If you use silicone copiously (clear) and not mastic as suggested earlier then it will most likely hold without any rawlbolts.
Have you ever tried prying a basin from the wall where someone has used this stuff ?. I have and believe me its not easy.

 

[darrenh]

you mean just 'stick it' to the wall with some silicone sealant?

I should mention this thing is 100cm wide, 45 cm deep and I have a toddler![/img]

 

[Balenza]

you mean just 'stick it' to the wall with some silicone sealant?

I should mention this thing is 100cm wide, 45 cm deep and I have a toddler![/img]

No, of course I don't mean just stick it to the wall with some silicone.
Use your loaf man.
If you are really that concerned about it then unistrut the wall and use 10mm spring zebedees and threaded bar.
What weight is this item ?.

 

[seco services]

you mean just 'stick it' to the wall with some silicone sealant![/img]

this basin should be up and half tiled by now.

 

[darrenh]

!! Seco - I just p*ssed myself laughing at that!

26.4 kg - my toddler is about 12 kgs

 

[seco services]

 

[darrenh]

How does unistrut help me here - Balenza - can you give me a bit more on this one (zebedees an all)?

Seco - I get your message on "just put the thing up" but just want to get the best option and leave nothing to chance.

 

[Balenza]

darrenh wrote

26.4 kg

Its not that heavy then. I would use silicone and Fischer fixings.
But its your choice at the end of the day. Unistrut would not be very aesthetically pleasing to the eye.