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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ellal, 25 Jul 2021.

  1. ellal

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    I've actually agreed (albeit partially) with a couple of tory MP's ( :eek: ), but end up with 'insufficient privileges' to reply further...

    Savid was right to say we should not 'cower' from the 'virus', but apparently that is ok whilst calling out people as 'scaredy cats' as to their approach to the 'virus' is not ok!
     
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  3. Mottie

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    Savid didn’t say that at all. He used the words cower and virus with the air quotes.
     
  4. Why the quote marks, ellal, why the quote marks?
     
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    I think Javid is right and we do need to stop cowering from it, within reason. I'm still wearing a mask into builders merchants and the likes of toolstation, not particularly for me but out of respect to the staff, and a lot of people are doing the same.
    I was chatting to the pub landlord last night about all the people missing in action, I think it will be a few years before we're fully back to normal in terms of socialising.
    That said, I went down to Charlestown last Sunday thinking it would nice to dine al fresco, couldn't even get a drink, b100dy tourists.
     
  6. JP_

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    The moment the Tories brought in a previous Business Secretary, and Chancellor of the Exchequer, as the new Health Secretary, we new the message was going to change.
    He's not interested in Health, he's interested in making money.

    So, get out there and spread the virus and make some money!
     
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    I suppose a combination of Covid + Brexit will make living in one of The UK's biggest tourist destinations a complete pain. I like Cornwall, especially the coastline, but prefer Devon because it feels more spacious and seems easier to escape madding crowds.

    An acquaintance was saying he was in Torquay the other day and he couldn't believe how busy it was. People queueing to get into pubs and restaurants. Said it was like The 70s, though I will have to bow to his greater knowledge of the decade than my own. I'm having a proper staycation at Argate this summer (hours on the M5 and dealing with crowds everywhere or lounging on the lawn - hmm tough choice) and will try to get abroad autumn/winter.
     
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    Cornwall has and always has been packed.
    Even through lockdown we had tourists here.
     
  9. JP_

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    A friend has been spending a week in the same cottage down in Cornwall for years, always paid £600 for the week. They are now charging £2500 per week, and this is all year, not just summer.

    UK summer holidays are getting more expensive, and it might be a while before prices come down again.
     
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    Covid infection rates have been plummeting for 7 days in a row.
    This is in complete contradiction to the estimated numbers predicted by the so called experts.
    WTF is going on.
     
  12. IT Minion

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    No one knows.

    It could be less testing, people might not get going to get trested when they have symptoms. After all we're living with Covid-19 now.

    It could be vaccination reducing the ability of Covid-19 to spread.

    It could be the nice weather that has meant more outdoor socialising, which is safer.

    It could be a combination of all of the above. But it's really hard to tell. The ONS weekly survey should give data on if this is a real fall in cases or if it's a failure in testing, as will hospital admissions in a couple of weeks.
     
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  13. ellal

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    It could be that porkies are being told by vested interests...

    Because...

    "More than half of people labelled as a Covid hospital patient in England only tested positive after being admitted for a different reason, leaked figures show.
    The NHS England data suggests the pressure of the third wave on hospitals may be even less severe than the daily numbers let on.
    There were 827 patients admitted for Covid in England last Thursday, according to the Government's coronavirus dashboard.
    But 56 per cent of these were only diagnosed with the virus after being in hospital for a different illness, with some patients only testing positive weeks later, according to data seen by The Telegraph"

    "Professor Carl Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the University of Oxford, told The Telegraph: 'This data is incredibly important, and it should be published on an ongoing basis.
    'When people hear about hospitalisations with Covid, they will assume that Covid is the likely cause, but this data shows something quite different – this is about Covid being detected after tests were looking for it.'
    He said the Government should publish clearer figures to outline whether the virus was the primary cause of admission, as the numbers could be exaggerating NHS pressure."
     
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    I wonder why .... oh, the school holidays.

    It's a very simple pattern - kids go to school, infections rise. Kids stay at home, infections fall.

    Totally expected now that we know kids carry it, often without symptoms, and spread it.

    Also the same reason restrictions eased at the end of the school year, and why some restrictions might come back in September.

    But the Government doesn't want to say that, as parents will stop sending their kids to school.
     
  15. ellal

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    Care to explain why people are now allowed to congregate in larger numbers (even those older than school age) and the figures for the 'virus' are going down?

    So do you agree or disagree with this?

    'By October, we'll be looking back at pandemic': Professor Neil Ferguson reveals the 'equation has changed' after Covid cases fell for SIXTH DAY in row - as experts suggest the Euros could've HELPED immunise thousands who wouldn't have got vaccine"
     
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    Numbers. There are 12 million people in education in the UK. They all share corridors and constantly mix, before going home.
    You can have the biggest shindig imaginable in a pub, but it won't come close
    Plus, most people are still being sensible.

    Impossible to agree or disagree, and 2 different things, but I will try.
    1. I cannot predict the future, so cannot agree or disagree with what we might be doing in October. In October, ask Professor Neil Ferguson if he was right, not me!
    2. No doubt some people got a vaccine to allow them to gather and watch football. That's a good thing. Whether it helped, no idea, I don't have any information to support this or reject this. Do you?

    Once again, and we've had this very same conversation several times - Vaccines and social distancing work. It really is that simple.

    12 million youngsters are now mostly sat at home rather than mixing with hundreds of other kids every day.
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    More people are being vaccinated every day

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    Rates are falling

    That's all.
     
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    RAC have said expect to see massively busy roads this summer as we all staycation....and apparently 30% of all UK road traffic will be West bound.

    takes me back to holidays as a kid, many a happy hour spent sitting in the back of my parents ford Zodiac on the A30 on Bodmin moor in a queue of endless caravans.
     
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