Future change in the EU [?]
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Did anyone expect anything else?
Even if the ruling classes ' intentions are good and honourable, the primary goal is to remain in power (you can't effect your plans if you aren't). The EU are no different to any other ruling class in that respect.
It's a demonstration of two political principles:
Only ask a question to which you already have the answer , and
Only ask a question, to which you want the answer.
Anything else is a dilution of power, and is setting oneself up for a fall.
Even if the ruling classes ' intentions are good and honourable, the primary goal is to remain in power (you can't effect your plans if you aren't). The EU are no different to any other ruling class in that respect.
It's a demonstration of two political principles:
Only ask a question to which you already have the answer , and
Only ask a question, to which you want the answer.
Anything else is a dilution of power, and is setting oneself up for a fall.
No, we all knew the Spectator is a right-wing, anti-EU rag.
the article was written by Claire Fox: a former revolutionary communist who once supported Irish republicanism and opposed the Good Friday Agreement.
from the article:
"majority of mainstream MEPs from the other 27 member states were almost universally disdainful"
should that be a surprise?, given their rude behaviour, brexit MEPs hardly showed much in the way of dignity
Its interesting that all Brexit MEPs had 2nd jobs and were all the most well paid of any MEP. Apparently it can be lucrative banging the drum for brexit -right wing think tanks have deep pockets
the article does have some merit, those at the heart of the EU do want more integration -Empire building is the central theme of anybody that works in it -Brigadier expressed this very well above.
but the EU also has to keep the 27 happy and generally they are more pragmatic and dont want more integration.
from the article:
"majority of mainstream MEPs from the other 27 member states were almost universally disdainful"
should that be a surprise?, given their rude behaviour, brexit MEPs hardly showed much in the way of dignity
Its interesting that all Brexit MEPs had 2nd jobs and were all the most well paid of any MEP. Apparently it can be lucrative banging the drum for brexit -right wing think tanks have deep pockets
the article does have some merit, those at the heart of the EU do want more integration -Empire building is the central theme of anybody that works in it -Brigadier expressed this very well above.
but the EU also has to keep the 27 happy and generally they are more pragmatic and dont want more integration.
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Ah, so the EU is happy to invite open debate (even if it questions or weakens "the project"), at risk of its own existence and contrary to how other ruling bodies operate?
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The Spectator IS a right-wing, anti-EU rag. And all the better for it. It's a welcome antidote to the rest of tripe out there. Be that right-wing trash or the apologists on the left. Notch has correctly identified the author is a left-ist politician - and yet her anti-brexit article sits pefectly framed in the Spectator. Perhaps Brexit isn't the right-wing construct you so dearly want it restricted to.
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The Mail - right-wing, anti-EU rag
The Express - right-wing, anti-EU rag
The Telegraph - right-wing, anti-EU rag
The Sun - right-wing, anti-EU rag
Sky news - right-wing, anti-EU rag
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The Grauniad-left wing,pro eu, kant spele
The Mirror-left wing rag
Independent- hardly.
The Mirror-left wing rag
Independent- hardly.
Actually both hard left and hard right are anti EU.
All of these are anti UK:
Communist party UK
Socialist party UK
Socialist faction of Labour party
Hard left are anti establishment and anti neo liberism, so hate the EU
The right are anti EU because the right are funded by the wealthy who want to persue their free market libertarian policies to deregulate and lower taxes.
Thats not the point, is it?Reading them is not compulsory, you know, much less taking any notice of them.
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Calling something or someone right-wing or anti-EU isn't an insult.
Because, for me anyway, there are a number of conflicting reports , viewpoints, and interpretations for most aspects of the world we now live in. It is up to the individual to choose between them.
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