Government consultation on MOT emissions

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Hi All,

Sorry for the short notice, but this might be of interest to many on here? Deadline for responses is 23.59 on Sunday night. You can respond online.

Basically, they want to make specific offences of tampering with emissions control equipment (blanking off EGR valves, gutting cats and DPFs, AdBlue emulators, remaps, etc) and upping the fines. They also want to update the MOT emissions test by adding some more requirements for Euro 5 and 6 cars, because the existing test is too low a bar for them. Most likely, they will add a bit of equipment that does a better job of measuring particulate emissions than the existing smoke meter, (a "Pn" tester). My guess is that nothing much will change for cars registered before about 2010, but the test might get a bit tougher for cars later than that. DPF deletes should be easy to spot if they go for this new bit of kit, but EGR and AdBlue mods will still be harder to detect.

 
Hi All,

Sorry for the short notice, but this might be of interest to many on here? Deadline for responses is 23.59 on Sunday night. You can respond online.

Basically, they want to make specific offences of tampering with emissions control equipment (blanking off EGR valves, gutting cats and DPFs, AdBlue emulators, remaps, etc) and upping the fines. They also want to update the MOT emissions test by adding some more requirements for Euro 5 and 6 cars, because the existing test is too low a bar for them. Most likely, they will add a bit of equipment that does a better job of measuring particulate emissions than the existing smoke meter, (a "Pn" tester). My guess is that nothing much will change for cars registered before about 2010, but the test might get a bit tougher for cars later than that. DPF deletes should be easy to spot if they go for this new bit of kit, but EGR and AdBlue mods will still be harder to detect.

So my car was marketed as eco engine - it has a wet belt and "low friction" piston rings for "eficiency" that start to let oil pass and burn at only 40k miles.
So with the new MOT test my car is likely to be scrap - how ECO friendly is that. Its just another push to force people to an electric car.
Feel Scammed Yet
 
So my car was marketed as eco engine - it has a wet belt and "low friction" piston rings for "eficiency" that start to let oil pass and burn at only 40k miles.
So with the new MOT test my car is likely to be scrap - how ECO friendly is that. Its just another push to force people to an electric car.
Feel Scammed Yet

Yeah, you're basically illustrating one of the main reasons why the ICE car has had its day. You fit all this tech to reduce CO2 emissions and fill them with gnat's pi55 thin oil to reduce internal friction, but when you do that, they start burning more of the stuff and their other emissions get worse. There's not much more that can be done with them. It's an excellent example of one of the reasons we need to move away from ICE. Well done! ;)
 
Yeah, you're basically illustrating one of the main reasons why the ICE car has had its day. You fit all this tech to reduce CO2 emissions and fill them with gnat's pi55 thin oil to reduce internal friction, but when you do that, they start burning more of the stuff and their other emissions get worse. There's not much more that can be done with them. It's an excellent example of one of the reasons we need to move away from ICE. Well done! ;)
Its alright if you are rich and can afford an EV car - or get given one for free like you.
But then that's the point - the scum are not allowed a car - its just for the rich champagne socialist.
 
Its alright if you are rich and can afford an EV car - or get given one for free like you.
But then that's the point - the scum are not allowed a car - its just for the rich champagne socialist.

We keep getting told that folk can't give second hand EVs away... is that a lie, then? ;)
 
Its alright if you are rich and can afford an EV car - or get given one for free like you.
But then that's the point - the scum are not allowed a car - its just for the rich champagne socialist.

Oh, point of order, it's not "free". It's part of my wages. I could choose to not have one and get paid more...
 
We keep getting told that folk can't give second hand EVs away... is that a lie, then? ;)
Probably for the same reason that people dont buy second hand batteries ;) (y)
 
Probably for the same reason that people dont buy second hand batteries ;) (y)

No, that seems to be "because they don't need them". Unlike ICE engines, they're warranted for 8 years / 100,000 miles - sometimes more... :)
 
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