Hard Brexit - food, fuel, drug shortages

IWalkLikeHimaMartian said:
At last, a quitter who admits that what 'we' want is simply not available.


Here is a road map for you, compliments of the Times:

https://www.ft.com/content/a9204df0-da84-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

You had better get busy.
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Or i could do what we're already doing and just start buying product that is already sourced from outside the EU where there will be no customs changes or product manufactured in the UK. In both cases, established suppliers and newly formed suppliers have spotted an opportunity and are already pushing hard to gain market share.
 
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Lower said:
I don't agree we can't decide what we want. We know exactly what we want, but the EU is not prepared to compromise at the moment. However, their hard stance cuts both ways. A number of EU countries depend on our trade and a compromise will eventually be found.

I'm not suggesting that we need to substitute products at the drop of a hat. We have will have notice of an impending hard brexit and companies will have opportunity to source product elsewhere. Which is exactly what my company is doing right now.
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So tell me what is it that we want.

To me it seems we want is all the freedoms apart from movement, everything else remain the same.

That's an impossible request. A murderer might as well ask the judge I will do the 20 years after I turn 90 if I make it that long.

So you sourcing new suppliers is that an added cost to doing business? What you doing about hedging sterling?
 
Lower said:
Or i could do what we're already doing and just start buying product that is already sourced from outside the EU where there will be no customs changes or product manufactured in the UK. In both cases, established suppliers and newly formed suppliers have spotted an opportunity and are already pushing hard to gain market share.
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Like I said, you had better get busy:
Any company wanting to trade across borders will also need to ensure internal systems communicate with both the EU’s customs technology and a new UK system. HM Revenue & Customs estimates the number of customs declarations will rise from 55m to 255m annually. Mr Persson says: “It will be a huge challenge for it to be ready by 2019.”
Joe Owen of the Institute for Government think-tank said an estimated 130,000 traders would be dealing with customs for the first time after Brexit.
About 63 per cent of EU companies are already seeking to ditch UK suppliers and 40 per cent of UK companies are seeking domestic suppliers, according to the Chartered Institute of Procurement and Supply.
Brexit poses a cash flow problem for trading companies because VAT will be charged at the border when importing goods and services.
Cash flow problems will be compounded for companies that need to hold additional inventory as insurance against potential delays at borders.
There is no guarantee that border procedures will operate smoothly immediately after Brexit, and companies will need a contingency plan in case systems fail. When Australia introduced a new customs procedure in 2005, it seized up within two days, leaving the nation short of medical supplies and toys for Christmas.
some will want to invest in greater warehousing, which is already reaching capacity.
Intellectual property protection, including patents, trademarks, registered designs and copyright could all change after Brexit.
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https://www.ft.com/content/a9204df0-da84-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

You have 10 months left to complete it all.
 
Kankerot said:
So tell me what is it that we want.

To me it seems we want is all the freedoms apart from movement, everything else remain the same.

That's an impossible request. A murderer might as well ask the judge I will do the 20 years after I turn 90 if I make it that long.

So you sourcing new suppliers is that an added cost to doing business? What you doing about hedging sterling?
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Sourcing new suppliers and looking for price reductions is what buyers do. Its not a significant cost to the business.

No, we're not hedging sterling. If the pound depreciates much more we'll pass the cost increase on to our customers (and i don't think it will go much lower),we're already selling more in the UK because our competitors import a product manufactured overseas exporting more because our product is now cheaper to foreign buyers.
IWalkLikeHimaMartian said:
Like I said, you had better get busy:
https://www.ft.com/content/a9204df0-da84-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

You have 10 months left to complete it all.
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IWalkLikeHimaMartian said:
Like I said, you had better get busy:
https://www.ft.com/content/a9204df0-da84-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

You have 10 months left to complete it all.
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We've been busy for the last 6 months.
 
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I wonder which of the four available options Judy favours.

Won't tell us, of course. Quitters don't like to.
 
Should we start hoarding food & other essential supplies ?

I have got a generater :cool:
 
I am getting some sand bags in , just incase I have to barricade myself into my house , I would advise that you do like wise ;)

could be gangs of have not's (socialists ?) roaming the country, who did not take this caper seriously ;)
 
edit above , Get sheets of ply , hammer and nails , ring shank nails would be best
 
transam said:
I am getting some sand bags in , just incase I have to barricade myself into my house , I would advise that you do like wise ;)

could be gangs of have not's (socialists ?) roaming the country, who did not take this caper seriously ;)
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Thanks for the advise. Have you tried roasting snails. They make a great snack on them cold winter nights when we have the power cuts.
 
There's some fella just starting a thread on building a garden wall. Should we advise him to build it as high as possible. Or better still build a moat instead
 
Lower said:
Sourcing new suppliers and looking for price reductions is what buyers do. Its not a significant cost to the business.

No, we're not hedging sterling. If the pound depreciates much more we'll pass the cost increase on to our customers (and i don't think it will go much lower),we're already selling more in the UK because our competitors import a product manufactured overseas exporting more because our product is now cheaper to foreign buyers.

We've been busy for the last 6 months.
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So essentially what you're saying is...

That you don't care about your present suppliers/competition and your customers can just take the hit, but as long as you're busy all is OK?
But what if your new suppliers import their components/supplies from the EU/abroad? That's a double price increase whammy!
And if too many of these 'competitors' (in all types of employment) have problems and start laying people off, then you will eventually have to find new customers as well!

Should we get a hard brexit, then EU purchasers may well also decide to get new suppliers because the hassle of doing business with the UK may well be worse than the amount that they could save even if the pound drops to parity.

We'd have to pull off some pretty quick decent trade deals with the rest of the world, because if the house of cards comes tumbling down it happens very quickly.

I remember the News at 10 'bongs' announcing almost daily yet another thousand(s) jobs lost during a previous tory recession!
(and that was when we had a semblance of an unemployment/welfare safety net)
 
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