Help with socket circuit

[EFLImpudence]

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• reece1605
• 9 Aug 2013
• 1

 

[ban-all-sheds]

And that was where?

... (Shown in pics supplied - fuse switch number 3) ...

 

[EFLImpudence]

Sometimes you have to look in newbie's albums.

 

[JohnW2]

You can do all those things because you have a radial circuit.

Does he?

Yes, he does - provided what he wrote was true.

He does not say so in his original post.

I agree that he did not use the word 'radial' (he probably didn't know it). However, what would you call a circuit consisting of one socket fed from a 16A MCB?

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Sometimes you have to look in newbie's albums.

And all the time you have to refuse to have anything to do with people who are either too thick to follow simple instructions on how to put photos in their posts, or too lazy and rude to want to be rsed.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yes, he does - provided what he wrote was true.

He wrote nothing about that.

I agree that he did not use the word 'radial' (he probably didn't know it). However, what would you call a circuit consisting of one socket fed from a 16A MCB?

A radial, but he did not say that that was what he had:

Hi,

I know this will be a really boring straight forward question to most, so sorry in advance.
I havent been able to find the answer for some of these questions on here, so apologies if I have missed anything.

I recently had a new kitchen installed and a new fuse box was fitted in the process.
Whilst this was being done, I wanted a new double socket in a large walk in storage cupboard, and the electricians fitted one on its own fuse switch. (Shown in pics supplied - fuse switch number 3)



I then decided I wanted a second double socket in the hall by this cupboard, so I ran a spur of this first double socket.

Now, I have decided I would like another double socket (or maybe a couple more of them) elsewhere.

So my questions are:

1) On this style of circuit, how many double sockets can there be?

2) How many spurs can be taken off one double socket (in this case, the first double socket fitted, which was in the cupboard... remembering that a second is already connected to it)?

3) What would be the best way of adding other sockets (spurs, junction boxes in loft, etc)?

4) Would a socket for the garden/s need to be ran off their own switched fuse in the Junction box or can they safely be connected to an existing circuit?

 

[JohnW2]

I agree that he did not use the word 'radial' (he probably didn't know it). However, what would you call a circuit consisting of one socket fed from a 16A MCB?

A radial, but he did not say that that was what he had:

So what do you understand (or not understand) by (an extract from what you've just quoted):

I wanted a new double socket in a large walk in storage cupboard, and the electricians fitted one on its own fuse switch. (Shown in pics supplied - fuse switch number 3)

??

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

There were no pictures.

 

[JohnW2]

There were no pictures.

For a start, as you've been told, there were pictures available to anyone who had enough consdieration to be bothered to make allowances for a newbie.

However, more to the point, why on earth do you need pictures to tell you that "I wanted a new double socket in a large walk in storage cupboard, and the electricians fitted one on its own fuse switch." is referring to a radial circuit?

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

For a start, as you've been told, there were pictures available to anyone who had enough consdieration to be bothered to make allowances for a newbie.

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It is no harder for a newbie to follow the instructions for putting pictures in his posts than it is anybody else - all they have to do is to read.

 

[reece1605]

Thanks to everyone who has given me leeway for being a newbie and getting it slightly wrong on my first ever posting, I appreciate it.

To anyone else, thanks for showing me the flip side

Is this a normal example of replies on forums like this, or am I being given a quick blunt lesson? Lol

 

[JohnW2]

Thanks to everyone who has given me leeway for being a newbie and getting it slightly wrong on my first ever posting, I appreciate it. ... To anyone else, thanks for showing me the flip side ... Is this a normal example of replies on forums like this, or am I being given a quick blunt lesson? Lol

Very normal - there is 'always one' (sometimes more) who is more likely to frighten off newbies than welcome them. Just ignore it and concentrate on the positives - there are plenty of people in forums like this one who actually want to be helpful (and who were once newbies themselves).

Kind Regards, John

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Is this a normal example of replies on forums like this, or am I being given a quick blunt lesson? Lol

It is for BAS, he considerer's himself at times as the oracle!
And can come across as must rude and arrogant, although he means no harm!

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

1) On this style of circuit, how many double sockets can there be?

Generally no limit, but common sense would need to be considering, the load required in relationship to the rating of the protective device (MCB)

2) How many spurs can be taken off one double socket (in this case, the first double socket fitted, which was in the cupboard... remembering that a second is already connected to it)?

This would depend on the type of circuit this is and the cross sectional area of the cable being use, so a little more information would be required, to give you a more infromed reply.

3) What would be the best way of adding other sockets (spurs, junction boxes in loft, etc)?

Employing an electrician that can design, install, inspect, test and commission the work safely

4) Would a socket for the garden/s need to be ran off their own switched fuse in the Junction box or can they safely be connected to an existing circuit?

Either way, but would always consider installing a double pole isolation switch internally, as a means of isolation for this socket only, or have the socket on a separate circuit protected by a RCBO.
This would then help prevent nuisance trips and/or loss of power to other circuits and power outlets of the installation sharing the same circuit and the same RCCB.