How many more U turns will this bloody government make?

[motorbiking]

No, it's better not to make such massive cuts that cost more to re instate.

But if you think tax cuts and better services go hand in hand keep praising austerity

Is the same as thinking spending more = better services.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

"austerity" was a word used by lefty marketing types, as it sounds so negative. In reality it's just only spending what you actually have, i.e. being responsible. Sadly the BBC lapped up this crap at the time, implying it was all bad and was just a brief period, after which the reckless entitled borrow-to-spend New Labour policies would be back in force, which is what happened, ironically under the tories after they sold out.

It's a lot like "progressive", which is a lovely positive sounding word that has been adopted by the BBC and chums to describe socialism. It sounds great, who doesn't want to progress? In reality it means handing over your money, under threats of state violence, so that they can waste it all on crap you don't want.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

"austerity" was a word used by lefty marketing types, as it sounds so negative.

Erm it was a tory thing

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Is the same as thinking spending more = better services.

Cutting out certainly doesn't improve things

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Erm it was a tory thing

Yes, obviously. Labour never cut anything, never have. What's your point?

It was a word used by the lefty establishment to criticise the tory government.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes, obviously. Labour never cut anything, never have. What's your point?

It was a word used by the lefty establishment to criticise the tory government.

No it was a word used by the tories

 

[Dec27]

Some people will argue about anything. It’s very sad

 

[Brigadier]

Yes, obviously. Labour never cut anything, never have. What's your point?

It was a word used by the lefty establishment to criticise the tory government.

No it wasn't.

It was a badge of pride, a rallying cry to the tory base, to prolong the myth that they were the party to trust with the nation's finances.

 

[blup]

"austerity" was a word used by lefty marketing types, as it sounds so negative. In reality it's just only spending what you actually have, i.e. being responsible.

Austerity arose from the banks spending what they didn’t have.

Sadly the BBC lapped up this crap at the time, implying it was all bad and was just a brief period, after which the reckless entitled borrow-to-spend New Labour policies would be back in force, which is what happened, ironically under the tories after they sold out.

New Labour died in 2010. It’s not reckless to pay off debts to the gilt and bond market who bailed out the banks.

 

[morqthana]

Digital IDs: Starmer’s change of heart another ‘almighty backtracking’

The government dropping the digital ID scheme's mandatory element is another climbdown for Downing Street, writes the BBC's political editor.

www.bbc.co.uk

You weren't full of praise for it here: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/mandatory-id-cards-brit-card-to-be-announced-tomorrow.650388/

But now you don't like the decision to drop it?

Surely you should welcome it.

 

[morqthana]

... welded to their tribalism ...

Have a word with your chum:

I’m happy as long as Labour are out.

 

[blup]

“Let me be clear, digital ID is going to be mandatory if you want to work in the U.K.”

Testing the water.

It’s all relative, the great British public are being asked to test the water with re form

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

No it was a word used by the tories

Well they deserved to fail if that's true.

I just remember the BBC and labour almost spitting out the word in disgust when talking about anything that resulted from government spending being anything less than unlimited. It forced their hand, into becoming as useless as labour, which is what got us where we now are.

 

[morqthana]

Some people will argue about anything. It’s very sad

Maybe some truth would help:

David Cameron's conference speech in 2009.

11 uses of the word "austerity".


The United Kingdom government austerity programme was a fiscal policy that was adopted for a period in the early 21st century following the era of the Great Recession. Coalition and Conservative governments in office from 2010 to 2019 used the term
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The first period was one of the most extensive deficit reduction programmes seen in any advanced economy since the Second World War, with emphasis placed on shrinking the state, rather than consolidating fiscally as was more common elsewhere in Europe.
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The Conservative-led government claimed that austerity served as a deficit reduction programme...Most prominent economists agree that austerity is ineffective if the aim is to bring about a recovery from recession...
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There was no central function or risk assessment made to predict the impact of the austerity programme on services and budgets in the long term. There were however "big strategic moves" to protect groups more likely to vote Conservative, and make cuts elsewhere.

 

[morqthana]

Well they deserved to fail if that's true.

Umm...