I. D. Cards
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I don't have to make my mind up!
I live in a southern suburb of Stockport which is, according to my postal address, in Cheshire.
However, Stockport as a town is part of the Greater Manchester area.
Are you in Cheshire "proper"?`
I live in a southern suburb of Stockport which is, according to my postal address, in Cheshire.
However, Stockport as a town is part of the Greater Manchester area.
Are you in Cheshire "proper"?`
well is the rest of it is anything like cheetham hill or trafford park areas that i use to know in the 80's
your welcome to it.
your welcome to it.
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No! Where I live is nowhere like those areas!!
I'll happily carry an ID card if somebody GIVES me one - and if the government really want us all to have them that's exactly what they should do; hand them out free. Charging for them is just another one of Slimy Tony's stealth taxes that, fortunately, never came to be.
Yes, I'm sure they can be forged so what about this idea, suggested on last night's Question Time. Everybody has their DNA sampled at birth. This is surely much harder to forge, though, as somebody pointed out, it would be easy enough for a criminal to get hold of some of yours and plant it at the crime scene.
So why don't we go the whole hog and implant ID chips at the same time. Security cameras could read these and positively identify intruders. Or could they? How long would it be before somebody figured out how to wipe their chip, thereby making themselves anonymous, or even re-program themselves as a clone of you or me?
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Yes, I'm sure they can be forged so what about this idea, suggested on last night's Question Time. Everybody has their DNA sampled at birth. This is surely much harder to forge, though, as somebody pointed out, it would be easy enough for a criminal to get hold of some of yours and plant it at the crime scene.
So why don't we go the whole hog and implant ID chips at the same time. Security cameras could read these and positively identify intruders. Or could they? How long would it be before somebody figured out how to wipe their chip, thereby making themselves anonymous, or even re-program themselves as a clone of you or me?
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Though history / television has also taught us that no forgery is undetectable
Rubbish, the Mona Lisa in the Louvre is a forgery, I knocked up a copy in my shed in about an hour.
ID cards will not stop crime or terrorism, we are all going to have ID card wether you like it or not. It is now a EU policy if England still stay in the EU
Blair & Brown sold England down the river and this is what Blair quoted"`Instead of wasting hundreds of millions of pounds on compulsory ID cards...let that money provide thousands more police officers.'
Blair & Brown sold England down the river and this is what Blair quoted"`Instead of wasting hundreds of millions of pounds on compulsory ID cards...let that money provide thousands more police officers.'
Well, I quite like the idea of them and I have no particular issue with coughing up £60 or so for one, although I would prefer it to be cheaper, or better still, free.
Providing that, unlike the plastic driving licence, there wasn't also some stupid bit of paper that you also had to show.
Providing that, unlike the plastic driving licence, there wasn't also some stupid bit of paper that you also had to show.
The true cost of an ID Card which we will be forced to pay, is likely to be around £175.00 each. Then businesses (even small ones) will have to purchase an approved reader at about £250.00 a go.
Then...
Does anybody know how much it costs to get a cat or dog chipped? I don't think it's as much as £175. That sounds like a cheaper option to me and you wouldn't have to worry about losing the thing. 
Next question: What size EMP will it take to fry one in situ?
PS: our wheely bins haven't been chipped yet but I do have the means to fry one of those little b*ggers. Six MeV is more than enough!
Next question: What size EMP will it take to fry one in situ?
PS: our wheely bins haven't been chipped yet but I do have the means to fry one of those little b*ggers. Six MeV is more than enough!
I too am confused over the cost of the manchester 'optional' ID Cards, BBC breakfast news were reporting the other morning that they would be £60 but by the time i got home from work, North West Tonight were reporting them at £30 each. They also said that the government has said that two-thirds of the population supported ID cards, however, NWT did a survey (albeit a very small survey) in Manchester City Centre and only 20% said they'd volunteer for one.
Personally, i think they're a good idea and would have no issue with having to have one. I do however have an issue with having to pay for them. Why do we need a driving licence which we have to pay to renew every 10years, a passport which we have to pay to renew every 10 years and presumably the ID card would need renewing every 10 years to to re-new the mugshot? Why can't we have one form of ID which acts as a passport, an ID card and has details of driving entitlements? And anything else for that matter - organ/blood donor status, even membership of professional bodies such as CORGI? Surely it would be easy enough to add the DNA and/or fingerprint data to our passports as we re-new them.
Personally, i think they're a good idea and would have no issue with having to have one. I do however have an issue with having to pay for them. Why do we need a driving licence which we have to pay to renew every 10years, a passport which we have to pay to renew every 10 years and presumably the ID card would need renewing every 10 years to to re-new the mugshot? Why can't we have one form of ID which acts as a passport, an ID card and has details of driving entitlements? And anything else for that matter - organ/blood donor status, even membership of professional bodies such as CORGI? Surely it would be easy enough to add the DNA and/or fingerprint data to our passports as we re-new them.
