ICE told to get the eff out

[MNW67]

Eh? What the actual ****

It was thought crime.

 

[noseall]

Nonsense, you’ve closed your mind to the possibility that the two women were attempting to interfere and obstruct.

Attempting? Nonsense. Cars could move freely along the road.

 

[Highway Man]

We might finally be getting somewhere.

You seem to be agreeing that there was no actual obstruction.

No he isn't.

 

[noseall]

in the middle of the road, not at the side of the road?

It matters not where, particularly.

 

[MNW67]

If I attempt to murder you are you dead?

How did Renee attempt to obstruct the agents.

 

[MNW67]

No he isn't.

Yes, he is admitting that.

We are finally making progress!

Painfully slow progress. But progress nonetheless.

 

[blup]

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[motorbiking]

How did Renee attempt to obstruct the agents.

It was obviously a joint enterprise endeavour.

What other goal did she have for parking her car across the road?

 

[motorbiking]

Yes, he is admitting that.

We are finally making progress!

Painfully slow progress. But progress nonetheless.

If you are open to the idea that the agent had probable cause to believe they were attempting to interfere and cause obstruction, contrary to federal and state law, we might be.

I’m not convinced you are open to this idea

 

[noseall]

What other goal did she have for parking her car across the road?

Does she need a 'goal' or even a reason?

The answer is no.

 

[motorbiking]

Does she need a 'goal' or even a reason?

The answer is no.

She does.

 

[noseall]

If you are open to the idea that the agent had probable cause to believe they were attempting to interfere

Jezus give those straws a rest, they are being clutched to death.

 

[noseall]

She does.

Nonsense.

 

[motorbiking]

Nonsense.

Imagine it was in the U.K. and police were doing a road check, imagine you parked your car sideways across the street and waved people to go around you. Plod come up to you and say any reason you are stopped like this and you say, no.

Do you think they’d tell you to move and if you refused do you think they’d have grounds to do you for obstructing the highway or worse?

Come on, stop being daft.

 

[MNW67]

If you are open to the idea that the agent had probable cause to believe they were attempting to interfere and cause obstruction

The wife is actually irrelevant. She wasn't in the car.

Let's just clarify where we are.

You have accepted that Renee wasn't actually obstructing the agents.

And you are now saying that they were arresting her because they had probable cause to believe that she was attempting to obstruct them. I am happy to discuss that further.