ICE told to get the eff out

[carmanmemoranda]

and just let her go? She was told to stop the car. The agent opened her door so he couldn't have been clearer. She took it upon herself to flee

She was also told to move the car.

 

[Highway Man]

These are the rules for Federal officers:

1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.

Yes we know all of that, as can be seen by the outcome, the rules in a book are not always followed as other circumstances are a factor

 

[MNW67]

Yes we know all of that, as can be seen by the outcome rules in a book are not always followed as other circumstances are a factor

Their rules say they should have let her go instead of using deadly force. So, ipso facto, that is what they should have done.

 

[Highway Man]

Their rules say they should have let her go instead of using deadly force. So, ipso facto, that is what they should have done.

In a perfect world but this is the USA where they are trigger happy.

 

[blup]

3 shots is that all

There are plenty of vids on line of plod shooting people in excess of 15 times ( entire magazine) and than reloading to empty another magazine into the suspect

They also carry rifles on board now that came about after the holly wood bank robbery when the police were out gunned by two bank robbers with Ak 47 s and armour penetrating ammo

Trumpf is more concerned about protesters in Irann than his own country

 

[Highway Man]

Gotta dash, had a call out and it is my day off but going in to help out as it is chaotic

 

[MNW67]

Trumpf is more concerned about protesters in Irann than his own country

Yes, indeed. An acute observation.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

In a perfect world but this is the USA where they are trigger happy.

Trigger happy

Sort of getting there, I think

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

No, in this photo he was standing to the left of the car and her wheels are already turned to the right. She then sets off to the right. For some reason he jumps backwards. She didn't hit him and was never going to hit him.

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Those shots are very selective, to the point of misleading.

The wheels were turned to the left, or at least straight when she accelerated. If the road hadn't been icy she'd have run him down. But the wheels span on the ice, then she turned right, got some grip on the ice and the car started moving.

It was attempted murder by the driver, who got shot in self-defence.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Those shots are very selective, to the point of misleading.

The wheels were turned to the left when she accelerated. If the road hadn't been icy she'd have run him down. But the wheels span on the ice, then she turned right, got some grip on the ice and the car started moving.

It was attempted murder by the driver, who got shot in self-defence.

Not according to the city authorities.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

If she really was driving away from them then she'd have been in reverse.

It's easy to criticise on the basis of frame-by-frame analysis. If the cop had the abililty to freeze time I'm sure he would have. But if I was him, with a gun pointing at someone who's driving at them, resisting arrest, then it should be obvious that she would end up getting shot.

The bullet passed through the windscreen, not the side window - despite the cop being right-handed.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I'd like to see a video from an earlier starting point, this looks like the end of a situation so doesn't give the full story.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It was a very confusing state of affairs for both "sides" of this event.

But the woman was not a "terrorist".

The fact that 1 side has come out trying to label her as such has massive connotations.

A cover up is part of that. The city authorities disagree with the federal view before it's even a day old.

This isn't going to be brushed under the carpet .

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I'd like to see a video from an earlier starting point, this looks like the end of a situation so doesn't give the full story.

Where she was repeatedly told to move her car?

Which she was doing

 

[fillyboy]

Trumpf is more concerned about protesters in Irann than his own country

More of us should be. What happens next in Iran has the potential to bring some sort of lasting peace in the Middle East.

I must admit, I hadn't realised until yesterday how heavily intertwined Venezuela was with Iran and Hezbollah.