ICE told to get the eff out

[Highway Man]

What does that mean. Are you saying that he had made a decision to fire three shots and so he was unable to stop himself completing those shots even when the danger had passed. A court would laugh at that.

No court would laugh at that. Timing between shots is relevant to murder or shooting attempting to stop her.

 

[Highway Man]

I am applying the law.

You are not understanding the law

 

[MNW67]

Most definitely not. Do you think he knew she was dead driving past him. He didn’t shoot her through the rear window and she wasn’t half way up the road either by the time the third shot was let off.

That seems to be the point you are missing. It doesn't matter whether he knew she was dead by the time she passed him. All that matters is that he knew that he was no longer in danger.

 

[Highway Man]

Let’s wait for the investigation to release the verdict. I am telling you how it will play out. No conviction will take place as there is no case to answer to.

 

[Highway Man]

That seems to be the point you are missing. It doesn't matter whether his knew she was dead by the time she past him. All that matters is that he knew that he was no longer in danger.

How did he know that. The shots were fired exact timing you would expect for him being in danger.

 

[MNW67]

You are not understanding the law

OK, say the second shot killed her. And he intended it to kill her. The grounds for murder have been fulfilled. He needs a defence. But he doesn't have one. He can no longer argue self-defence, because she was no longer a danger to him at that time. This is the sort of issue courts look at all the time in minute detail.

 

[MNW67]

How did he know that. The shots were fired exact timing you would expect for him being in danger.

By using his eyes to see that the car was driving away from him. Unless he was firing with his eyes closed.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Conclusion 1, the brainless right wingers: if you have a gun and you’ve been made a deputy sheriff you can shoot who the f**k you like

You're misunderstanding. I'm a brainless right winger. I don't think US cops should run around shooting people, but I appreciate that they do, so I wouldn't make myself a martyr by deliberately putting one in a position where he'd be likely to shoot me.

There's a difference between what you think is right or wrong, and reality.

 

[noseall]

It’s irrelevant her positioning or demeanour towards him

Not when you are saying she threatened him with her vehicle, when in fact the truth is, all she was doing was fleeing masked men that were attacking her and men that deliberately positioned themselves in front of her vehicle.

She could be a smiling assassin for all he knew

?

. He is not a mind reader and could not read what was on her mind by ignoring commands of get out of your vehicle and stop

On her mind was why are armed masked men trying to attack me? Why are they trying to reach into my car? Why are they trying to open my car door?

 

[MNW67]

For anyone who is interested in the forensic side of things, this is the first shot position. The second and third shots go directly through the side window whilst the car is passing him. By the time of the first shot, the car has already moved forwards between three and five feet. It is arguable that, if the killer really believed he was in danger when the car first set off, then he was too late to stop the first shot. But by the time of this first shot, it is already clear that the car is not going to hit him. The average time delay for an officer to stop firing when a danger has ended is 0.35 seconds. The second shot came 0.4 seconds later. Basically, he could easily have stopped himself from firing the second and third shots. But his intention by then was not self-defence, but to kill.

 

[blup]

You're misunderstanding. I'm a brainless right winger. I don't think US cops should run around shooting people, but I appreciate that they do, so I wouldn't make myself a martyr by deliberately putting one in a position where he'd be likely to shoot me.

There's a difference between what you think is right or wrong, and reality.

Your confusing reality with the law. An armed robber can point a gun at a teller, but it doesn't make them responsible for their own death if they dont comply. And the lady here wasnt even asked to handover the money

 

[Highway Man]

By using his eyes to see that the car was driving away from him. Unless he was firing with his eyes closed.

Timing, timing, timing. She was moving he wasn’t.

 

[Highway Man]

For anyone who is interested in the forensic side of things, this is the first shot position. The second and third shots go directly through the side window whilst the car is passing him. By the time of the first shot, the car has already moved forwards between three and five feet. It is arguable that, if the killer really believed he was in danger when the car first set off, then he was too late to stop the first shot. But by the time of this first shot, it is already clear that the car is not going to hit him. The average time delay for an officer to stop firing when a danger has ended is 0.35 seconds. The second shot came 0.4 seconds later. Basically, he could easily have stopped himself from firing the second and third shots. But his intention by then was not self-defence, but to kill.



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Completely irrelevant

 

[pete01]

What did she do that was so bad she needed to be shot?

Asking for a friend.

 

[MNW67]

What did she do that was so bad she needed to be shot?

Asking for a friend.

She parked between one hundred and two hundred yards way from an ICE operation, pipping her horn.